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Is Powell a war criminal?

If the answer is "Yes" then answer this next question:

"What about our current president?"

Blogs on the internet accuse the president, of similar act as Powell:

"Obama remains a continuation of Bush. As he announced that “a decade of war is now ending,” his drone war killed three more “suspected militants” in Yemen—another statement that the U.S. has the right to target anyone, anywhere suspected of wanting to attack U.S. nationals or the forces of governments that work with the U.S. are fair targets for annihilation at the president’s discretion."

or......

Obama continues to threaten Iran. He continues to encourage the false perception encouraged by the media that Iran has a nuclear weapons program threatening Israel and the world. Following the joint U.S.-NATO operation to topple Qadafy in Libya (producing an even worse regime), he mulls over intervening in Syria, and already orders his air force to deliver French troops to the battlefields of yet another war-of-choice, this time in Mali."

President Obama was elected by popular support and with the endorsement of Gen. Powell.

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    Feb 5 2013: In reply to To Karsten Grunert

    Hi once again Karsten,
    in a state of Awareness and Caring,
    I respectfully respond to you.

    As children of God we are all good.
    When we do wrong, we are doing the work of he who is evil!
    Who has not sinned?

    In two months Karsten, I will be 80. During all these years,
    I never stopped learning.
    I still only have partial knowledge. No one knows all.
    Only The One Above knows all.

    As a young man I learned that there is honest-argument
    and there is dishonest-argument.
    There many examples of arguing dishonestly;
    the one I see here is "extending an argument,
    used when an opponent can't win the argument as it is defined."

    As an opponent in this argument,
    I point out that you haven’t even countered my argument;
    you just ignore it and and extend the argument hoping to confuse.

    Respectfully yours
    Don Wesley [From the Silent Generation 1930’s]
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      Feb 5 2013: Re: As children of God we are all good.
      When we do wrong, we are doing the work of he who is evil!

      This is your personal belief. It would be more appropriate to state it as such so as not to force your beliefs onto others. i.e. I belief that "as children of God we are all good.
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        Feb 5 2013: Hi Mr Hoppe,

        You are right to point this out.
        This where I decided to put my trust; in God.
        In no way can I challenge how others reason.
        My reply was situational.
        Respectfully yours
        Don Wesley
    • Feb 5 2013: You seem to disagree with me, but for the life of me, I can't point to a single comment you've made that describes what this is succinctly.

      Let me try this. I care too. I believe that the Iraq war was wrong. The reason I believe this is that the entire basis of prosecuting the war was wrong. Iraq DID NOT have WMD's when we invaded. Thus the millions of Iraqi who died or were displaced were killed when they weren't guilt of the crime for which they were accused. Thus the hundreds of thousands of soldiers in the US died for a cause that was wrong.

      Powell was one of the chief reasons this error was made. He presented "evidence" that turned out to be wrong, cooked or deliberately distorted. I consider doing what he did to be contrary to the oath he took, contrary to the duty of his position, morally wrong and politically irresponsible.

      Further, Powell himself now admits much of this.

      If you believe that my agreement is wrong, please point out where you believe me to be in error and stop harping that you don't like my style.

      You have said several times now that I am ignoring your argument. For the love of Pete, would you please make it in a single readable sentence or two and get on with it?
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        Feb 6 2013: Karsten,

        To use your figure of speech and what nasty's it implies, "For the love of Pete"
        I add, Karsten, in what structure of learning did you not learn to read?
        Really I’m laughing now because, of the non-sense you keep blowing into my old eyes.
        If I didn't laugh, I’d be crying for all the damage your doing.
        You are doing a lot of dis-honest arguing.
        With an expression like "For the love of Pete" I am wondering; are you American living in Europe?
        Respectfully and full of compassion
        I know we do care about one another and want justice to right the wrongs we see.
        Truth is found resting on three columns: Strength, Wisdom and Beauty.
        Don
        • Feb 6 2013: Please, please please say something that makes some logical sense. Yes, I am an American. Not all Americans live forever in the States.

          I have learned to read. This is why I have such a hard time understanding you. You do not seem to follow any systematic thought progression.

          Will you please stop writing in lame metaphors and pseudo-poetic language. You fool no one.

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