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How much do you know about First Nations Treaties and the Crown?
Generally speaking, First Nations treaties with the Crown of Canada seem like something mythical and in the distant past. They are however, very current and in the here and now however. That vague sense of obscurity has been and still is cultivated by a lack of intention by government and a misrepresentation of the facts through education. Some improvement has been achieved in the education system, but more needs to be done and that does not address several generations of lack of and or distorted information instilled in the general Canadian public.
So, rather than discussing whether these treaties are relevant or not, I would like to begin the discussion with the question... what do you, know about the treaties between First Nations and the Crown of Canada? We are all treaty people and we all have some responsibility to be informed.














Jamie Hume
Santo DiPietro
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
Isabelle Morgan
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
Jamie Hume
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I just keep reposting what i can on my FB wall along with all the news on IDLE NO MORE and a few bits and pieces. Alternative media...and I pray.
Ken brown 30+
We were too small in land mass and crowded when colonization came, cultural intermixing was inevitable as well as genetic mixing. We have only one treaty with the crown that covered all the tribes, it's very different compared to the first nations treaties. We share similarities but that's it, they are only similar in the struggle to have the treaties honored and we support all on the pacific rim who has a crown treaty.
It's very strange, My people do feel an affinity with the first nations not just from the treaties. We are not genetically related but there is something there that draws us. I don't know what it is yet when i hear a round dance something flips or slides or wakes up, similar to what i felt when i was young learning our own songs. English cannot explain a peoples Kaua (way) There is an instant recognition of something with the round dance, something old from the blood.
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
Excellent! Akwesasne Notes
http://www.ratical.org/AkwesasneNs.html
Ken brown 30+
Why are there a lot of Indian women being killed?
Here's a link but it's from my time and era, completely different from today's world. Is there elements that you see that seem similar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NV45ZuepZo
On this Wednesday which will be your Tuesday my people will have our yearly holiday celebrating our treaty with the crown, it's called Waitangi day. The place name where the tribes signed the treaty, Crying water but it has become a gathering for more of my activist oriented people to gather and make their displeasure quite obviously known to our PM, who by tradition comes back to Waitangi for the day.
Jamie Hume
A male FB friend just posted a photo of his niece. She had been beaten by his sisters x boyfriend.
So, FN women are an easy target for racists to lash out at. Visibility and historically symbolic I guess. I don't know. What ever it is, it has to stop.
Regarding the drum... you are not alone. I am not FN... as far as I know... and I feel it too. I am not a whanna be... I just feel something I cannot explain. This may sound crazy, but I feel sometimes it is a call to everyone who is still connected by heart and soul to he earth. My sons father said to me when I was bringing up the whanna be Indian thing... he said you are not stealing anything, you are returning home.
Ken brown 30+
Look i've only read a small bit online but has there ever been a march from the Pacific coast by FN women towards the seat of government?. The march might go around to each nation to gather more women or any woman but it would be preferable if the grandmothers make it with their grand children. It would be hard and not all will be able to complete it but it might just take all of FN women and other women to "Hikoi" (Hee coy) sacred walk to find their answer. There must be a few hundred thousand FN women in Canada, maybe these women need to grow some balls.
I bet it's already been done hasn't it?
Jamie Hume
http://www.ammsa.com/publications/windspeaker
Jamie Hume
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
It is good to know your own roots. For everyone.
It is not all about money. We are all treaty people, both aboriginal and non-aboriginal .. status of no status. It is worth learning about for everyone. It opens your eyes and enriches our lives.
The east coast had an outright slaughter of the Beothus people... if any survived they are long gone.
The maritimes in Canada was a blood bath. The rest of the country was not. It was treaty by treaty and there are still untreatied areas across Canada yet to be settled. Ottawa is one of them.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Beothuk+people&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=u&rls=en&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=jXcNUeyoE4qU2gXh0YCYAw&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1378&bih=940
Baiscally, these people were hunted to extinction for the sake of colonization.
Other than this... and this is bad enough... the USA was the biggest war zone when you talk of outright bloodshed. There were many deaths both immediate and long miserable faits across the land though and those peoples whose lives were lost deserve to have their stories heard.
http://www.therooms.ca/museum/mnotes1.asp
Isabelle Morgan
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
The way the federal government does things is very twisted. Rewards are balanced by severe controls.
Corruption is almost an understandable consequence of Federal mismanagement.
A good example is that of Chief Spence. There was no funding for the necessary staff with the expertise to do that missing book keeping. There was zero proof that anything was actually missing. The auditor stated that Chief Spence had made significant improvements and the the Federal Government was responsible for mismanagement, but in the news, most coverage did not state that. CBC was better than most, but you need to read native news media and watch APTN.
Valerie Harrison
The main point that the media and public misses is that the Federal monies also pay for services that the general public is heavily subsidized for like education, health care etc. In the final analysis....First Nations on reserved get less per capita spent on them than the general public does.
You hit the nail on the head Jamie....she did improve things but didn't have the accounting knowledge to meet the incredible paperwork that is required. It is a very small community.
The most troubling thing to me is the Comments section of major media stories. The level of racism was shocking to me. I am Metis but don't look it so I have not experienced racism personally. But I am very aware and embrace my First Nations cousins so I do pay attention to the issues. After many years of non action.....this has caused me to activate and support Idle No More.
We may have a chance in Canada to change things for the better. My cousins in the US have a bigger challenge.
Jamie Hume
I think the general public thinks these people are teen runaways, vagrants, people going on drunks or prostitutes... none of which should matter, but it is not true.
http://www.facebook.com/SaskatchewanMissingWomen?fref=tshttp://www.missingnativewomen.org/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/464107593610714/?fref=tshttp://www.facebook.com/missing.manitoba.1?fref=ts
http://www.amnesty.ca/our-work/issues/indigenous-peoples/no-more-stolen-sisters
This is a massive situation. It is deplorable. If this were white people it would be in the news every day. The majority of these missing women never hit the news. I am very glad that you are safe, but be aware and protect yourself and those you love. This is a real or imagined or exaggerated danger.
This site is just a taste of it. Almost every day I get posts by friends of missing people. Do I see these people in the news. No. So what is going on?!!!!
As women, all women need to stand together as sisters and make this stop. How, I do not know, but we have to do it.
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
This is interesting... I particularly like the wording used ...civilizations
http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/firstnations/civilisations.html
This is for anyone under the illusion there were no boarders here before European contact.
Blackfoot Confederacy... yeah Blood tribe!
http://www.google.ca/search?q=blackfoot+confederacy+territory&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&rls=en&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=RdcLUfjlI-aBywH4soDwBg&ved=0CEkQsAQ&biw=1378&bih=956
Placing Fn first person networks ...
Jamie Hume
Ken are you aboriginal? I would be very cautious about what you have heard. I know that there are some frauds out there. Arvol Looking Horse verses Marie Elk Head. Marie has passed away now... I am not party to this, but the Elk Heads are ... or so i believe, the White Buffalo Calf Bundle holders. This is for the Sioux people to sort out... I just feel it was her family.
This shield I have never heard of before. The dreamcatcher is a new one too. Have not heard of anything like that. Of course I know about the dreamcatcher... just not this one you are talking about. Interesting. I doubt that that is true, but I will keep an eye on that and ask around.
No, I am not to my knowledge aboriginal. I am mainly Celtic extraction, but have family and friends that are FN.
Ken brown 30+
That other stuff in my other post with the shield is speculative as i can't even remember where i read it from or if it was what i remember. If you have any good links to native websites with your local peoples, it would be good to throw them up for us.
Jamie Hume
My family affiliation is Kainai and MI'kmaq by blood and many more by friendship.
Where are you from?
I got involved with FN rights and the treaties in the 1980s.
I will make some more link posts.
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
Valerie Harrison
FN in the North already are aware of the environmental effects of the oil sands and fracking and most do not support the huge expansion of the pipelines. This is their home lands while most people are in cities and towns away from the fields. Urban people do not see the devastation caused. Leaks DO happen.
Idle No More became a movement for all the environmental and political issues that the First Nations face. I am Metis (now Indian...but that will probably change again as is under Federal appeal). I do not suffer the political restrictions imposed on First Nations on reserve but am very familiar with the issues and support my cousins fully.
You don't need to be First Nations to want clean water, clean air and an habitable planet for your children. It is in the culture of First Nations people to think of important issues in terms of 7 Generations. That is far more important than current short term economics or politics. The selfishness of past generations have brought us to this, now it is up to all of us, now, to make positive change.
Ken brown 30+
Isabelle Morgan
Jamie Hume
Here in Canada we also have groups of pre-Canadian Confederacies. The Iroquois Confederacy is believed to have been a strong influence on the way your American government was created.
The British and the French had allies amongst First Nations as they went to war over what is now Canada.
Yes, Robert, these are one and the same. However, even though a lot of First Nations people, particularly elders, still use the term Indian in Canada, we have moved away from it as it was a mistaken identity in the first place. This is not India.
Yes, all of these treaties are valid today. They were created to be enforced for time immemorial. I imagine, that only if both parties to a treaty agree, that it could be dissolved and or a new treaty made. Of course we all know that treaties get broken... a very negative road.
Robert Winner 50+
However, being from the USA I would not be knowledgable of what treaties are in existence in your country.
If my defination is correct ... then please explain where you would like to drive this conversation.
Bob.
Ken brown 30+
Though you might be more knowledgeable about your native history this link is not an implication that you are not. I would like to point to the links second english word "nations" so i'm going out on a limb here, maybe the North American Native peoples have always viewed themselves as nations?
I think in this video they allude? to the idea that the system the native peoples used was what your founding fathers used as a base to work from. I don't know as i'm no expert but your native history is beautiful and old man, older than the first Celtic tribes of europe. Older than my own people. I do know that the people of the Sioux were always referred(or they referred to themselves) as The Sioux nation. I could be 100% wrong and open to correction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dr_Qqja4RY
Jamie Hume
Ken I think you may be right about the Sioux. I will watch the video. I have a lot of respect for that nation.
That is where the White Buffalo calk Pipe sits. A profoundly prophetic symbol of peace.
Ken brown 30+
Is it true the tribes are assembling a dreamcatcher that has the feathers of the true white Eagle? and something from the white calf? I'm seeing it through the eye's before there were borders just the natural tribal areas. I only vaguely remember reading something about the feathers and the White calf, or was it a shield? that is to be taken around the nations?
You know the Treaties with the Crown can take a generation or two before before a government will start taking it seriously. Are you 1/4 native? half cast? 1/8th or just a natural native born of different blood, Don't be offended as this is how my people talk to each other when sorting ourselves out with the bloodlines. The last full blood of my people died sometime last century.
Jamie Hume
and, this is great!
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/8thfire/
Valerie Harrison
edward long 100+
Jamie Hume
George, what part of the Crown of Canada and First Nations, is not ,clearly leaving out the United States of America? Canada is a Common Wealth country, a constitutional monarchy. That monarchy established nation to nation agreements ie treaties with existing governing bodies, ier the first nations( indigenous nations) ... which in Canada are today referred to as First Nations and for a short form online often as FN.
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Jamie Hume
Isabelle Morgan
With Idle No More I feel a sense of obligation to learn more about the treaties now but still feel uncomfortable about learning more since there was so much bloodshed that I presume were built on these treaties bloodshed our generation is not responsible to answer for but do bare the responsibility to create peace based on the lessons we have learned.
george lockwood 20+
PC to me - Or is this between Canada and other UN memebers? With your colder weather I assume you have fewer than we do. Fewer tribes However, I assume that there are alot of them Tell us all
Fritzie Reisner 100+