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Should our present day healing also consist of ancient healing practices?

I used to have OCD, Depression, built up anger,.... I went to a spiritual healer who channels one of the hindu angels, and the angel was able to heal me of all the above listed mental problems. My question now is that should we change modern day healing to incorporate ancient healing methods too. I find that today's healing is more about earning money, its more of a scam.

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    Adriaan Braam 20+

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    Feb 3 2013: In general Yes! would homoeopathy fall under this umbrella as well?

    My opinion is that in the olden days, believing in a spiritual world was normal. Now science seems to be obliterating that because it cannot detect or measure anything spiritual, so it is not there.

    Just as our mind influences our body through the brain, it in turn is strongly influenced by the spiritual world we live in.

    Very glad about your experience and how it helped. Sometimes people have a NDE and that may be the best thing that ever happened to them, and changed their life, sometimes.

    This is a book about that spiritual world http://webhome.idirect.com/~abraam/documents/TheSpiritualWorld.pdf
    See what you think

    It seems very much the case that healing is very much about money, that's why I call it the Medical Industry. But it is not limited to that at all. People in general seem to only have a job to make money, not to be useful and make a difference.

    One of Swedenborg's most famous quotes is
    "Man is born not for the sake of himself, but for the sake of others."
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    Lejan . 30+

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    Jan 31 2013: How would you think about this Hindu angels if 'they' would not have helped you? Or 'they' helped you, yet failed on others? In other words, how do we evaluate the efficiency of any healing method? Conventional, or unconventional - ancient or modern? How do we know which method suits whom best on certain conditions? Nowadays and in conventional medicine, I find patients in separation of their 'whole' and only treated by their symptoms instead of searching the true cause of an illness. In alternative medicine there is a more personalized approach in healing, yet it seems to me, without much of statistical data analysis of its outcome and results. And the method you described seems to be out of any analytical consideration and is quite 'spiritual' and 'transcendent'. For some reason each 'discipline' separates itself from the others, or gets separated by them, but has it to be that way? Isn't the patient the measure of all medicine and his 'felt' or even 'measurable' condition after a treatment? The fact that placebos can have results is proof by itself, that we still have no clue about the connectedness of our physical end mental existence and how and by what it can be influenced and why... So if all disciplines would just reflect again and work together to finally get a better understanding of ourself as a 'whole', we would probably do better in general.

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      Jan 31 2013: We evaluate it based on the change in the patients behavior as you said.

      The rest of the questions you asked for such as how do we know who needs what and how much..., all of that was used and developed in the past when the alternative systems were in place. Now about us trying to retrace the past back may or may not be possible, but what can be done is that the current R&D teams can work and figure things out so that we have a whole variety to seek treatment from.

  • george lockwood 20+

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    Jan 29 2013: You found the option I doubt it will go away.

  • greg dahlen 20+

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    Jan 28 2013: I would guess that modern healing methods draw on the past and incorporate, after all medicine didn't just appear out of a vacuum, today's medicine builds on the past.

    • Kunal Shah

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      Jan 28 2013: Yes Greg, today's system must have evolved from the past, the only problem is that today's system has gone so scientific that they have put aside all other forms of healing. I got healed of OCD, Depression, built up anger... for free. To see a therapist it would cost me at least C$80 per session and it would definitely take more than 5 sessions to heal, so that would mean 80X5=C$400+taxes, if it were even more serious, it would cost me more. All I am saying is that we have corrupted the current system whereby we are charged for, when we should not be paying at all.
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        Kate Blake 50+

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        Jan 29 2013: Interesting Kunal that you mention the cost factor, I didn't pick that up in your initial topic header.

        My issue with current medical practices is that is has become 100% reliant on prescriptions, seldom do GP's refer patients for counselling, or know about vitamin regimes, etc. Most are so caught into the benefits that come from the pharmaceutical companies that alternatives don't even occur to them.

        When I find a GP who is more open-minded, usually an Asian one, then I am much more comfortable.

        • Kunal Shah

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          Jan 29 2013: Not only that, but I was proposing that our schools too should have a similar system whereby they don't only have to give students access to a psychiatrist, but also a healer. I did forget to add that for my problems to end it took only 10 minutes. Yet when I used to go to a therapist I would talk for almost an hour and nothing would happen.

          The ancient ways of healing are cost and time effective. The Angels also do culture us well, I did ask is there a cure for aids, cancer... I was told yes there is. (I did not ask any further as I did not have either of the problems).

      • greg dahlen 20+

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        Jan 29 2013: I don't know, Kunal, any system that seems like it might help does get a look from science. For instance, acupuncture and chiropractic used to be distrusted, but now I think there is more acceptance.

        Actually, many psychologists are quite happy to see their patients get involved in religion, believe it is good for them.
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    Fritzie Reisner 100+

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    Jan 28 2013: I agree with Matthew and Kate that this is happening. I know the medical group to which I belong (a large, well-established one) has as part of its information base for members links to traditional healing approaches as well as those standard in Western medicine.
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    Kate Blake 50+

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    Jan 28 2013: ABsolutely Kunal, glad you had such success.

    I have seen some real miracles with reiki, acupuncture and more recently a young lad with MS was healed by a lady with no traditional qualifications. She was a massuaer who has a strong spiritual practice and it worked for this young man.
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    Mathew Naismith 10+

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    Jan 28 2013: G'day Kunal

    Most definitely & it’s happening, I know of a bloke who’s created his own technique which is similar to the bowen technique, it’s that good some surgeons send their patients to him before & after operations.

    Love Mathew
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