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Does human trafficking have to do with activities of Maoists in Nepal , and what are the chief reasons for their increase in power?
RANCHI: At a time when political parties are trying to check migration of labourers in the name of human trafficking, CPI(Maoist) operatives in the forest villages of the state have accused the government and main stream political parties of taking away their basic rights to live and earn. Admitting that a large number of villagers migrate even from the districts in which there is a considerable Maoist presence, a senior Maoist ideologue said unless they (read the Maoist organizations) are able to provide livelihood opportunities to villagers, they have no right to stop them from migrating and earn a living for their family. "We cannot put a ban on migration like the government is trying to impose because people leave their villages in search of jobs when they find no opportunity in farming due to drought or lack of employment opportunities at the local level," the Maoist leader said.
the above i took from a times of india reporter ..
Kate Blake 50+
Tarun Mahani
Kate Blake 50+
Random Chance 30+
Trafficking has to do with survival.
Traffickers are not bad people.
Some actually help people get from a bad situation to a better one.
Most traffickers might do horrible things (according to whatever media source),
and they might not be nice people in another persons eyes, but they are just
trying to survive and that is not wrong.
It is the system that is wrong. It is the system that is unjust. It is the system that
is corrupt by default.
Traffickers are not "bad people" and those reading this are "good people".
They are people trying to survive in very bad circumstances.
We need to get rid of the causes and reasons for corruption and crime, and things like
trafficking will simply disappear because there will no longer be a reason to do it.
Kate Blake 50+
Only trying to survive? At the expense of others health and well-being ... ?
Have you ever been to Nepal or India? I have friends who worked for years trying to buy children back off traffickers - children with their eyes burnt out or limbs distorted so that their begging was more successful; children who were sex slaves from the ages of 6-8 years.
The so called governemtns of both these countries is more corrupt than you could ever imagine
Tarun Mahani
and i agree that major reason for the power of masoists is the corrupt government here .
but it is coz of ppl then coz in india there is a democratic ppl that is again elected by the ppl , and ppl don't turn up to vote , so again corrupt government comes , maoists don't beleive in democracy , so u see a round circle is there , and again the same thing continues . So , either the centre government or the ppl hav to break it .
the idea about this article came into my mind , coz i do hav 3 nepali working at my farm house , and they were telling about the happening in nepal , so they want to bring their family to india , so its their wish , and they are happy to do so and they are not forced by traffickers , but the point is if nepali ppl spread in india they make the network of maoists stronger , which again adds to the power of maoists in nepal by providing them with the information of every step the government takes . so a lot of confusion is there , government is at fix and the problem is still continuing from so many years . u see like something can be done if we stop access or break their network like china does among their ppl .
Kate Blake 50+
If you look at my comment above it is indented with an arrow directly below Random Chances comment - this means I was replying directly to him. My comment started by addressing him by his initials, RC. And I certainly look forward to his response.
I would not need to ask those questions of you Tarun. I am so glad that more young Indians joining TED and becoming more active in worldly affairs - it is you lot that will have to sort out the legacy India leaves you with the corruption, naxals, maoists, etc
Now I understand your concern as it impacts directly on you if you have 3 Nepali workers. Many are leaving Nepal because the maoists have made the country extremely difficult to live in. After inciting riots for many years they have now disrupted the electricity supply for more than 16 hours most days. It seems to be off far more than it's ever on! And so many other issues as they bring the country to a halt.
Please beware if you start behaving like China you will become no better than them. You need to check that your Nepali workers are not maoists - if not it would be most kind to help them bring their family to India. If they are maoists then you would be best to employ poor locals, who are seldom politically active
Tarun Mahani
Tarun Mahani
Krisztián Pintér , coming back to ur questions ..
maoists are only fighting for ensuring that all types of freedom, rights and democracy for all sections of toiling masses .
and the reason to disagree with the government is same that they are not given what they want , coz our government is democratic and how can it provide full freedom to them , there has to be restrictions by law and order .
what i believe that this issue could have been resloved by the earlier political parties , at the initial stage of their development but they did not , coz they saw their personal profits as earlier maoists used to provide power to oppostion and so the movement continued to grow , and now it became so humongous that even centre government is finding difficulty in suppress the issue .
Kate Blake 50+
I said ppl with BMW's didn't traffic ... sorry you misunderstood. You have explained much better, thank you.
Please study the history of Maoism? They usually start by helping the poor masses, and they do indeed need such organisation. But once they have them on side, when their power is established then they turn the Naxals and others against the rulers eg wealthy, politicans, military, etc usually with violence at many levels ...
I might add that the main areas where the Maoists have been successful are those states that are most corrupt.
Tarun Mahani
The Maoists are revolutionaries mainly consisting of the extremely poor people including a large number of dalits and tribals. They come mainly from the toiling masses of India and they are trying ti organize the vast population of such masses of this country. They seek to arm and train them so that these masses can resist the onslaught of the rich. In this effort they go beyond the idea that mass movements should focus on some specific issues like increase of wages, better health care, more honesty of public servants and so forth.
The view of the Maoist rebels is that the poor and exploited people must first and foremost establish their own democratic political power and their own state power in various places. This is because without controlling state power, the poor and the exploited can at most hope for only limited improvements in their living conditions, i.e., so long as it does not inconvenience the rich who usually control state power. So the Maoists mobilize the the poor to fight against the existing state, even armed fight if possible, as they consider the existing state to be a set of agents acting for the big multinational corporations, rich landlords and the wealthy in general.
The fight is an extremely challenging and unequal one as the rich are aided by the government bureaucrats, the police and even the military. Also, contrary to what the Government and the mainstream media are propagating, the Maoist rebels are actually completely opposed to individual killings, they openly denigrate such stray terrorism-like acts. What they have been attempting to build up is a mass movement, even armed, to take on the violence of the ruling classes and its representative state machinery.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
however, now i don't understand what all this has got to do with trafficking.
Kate Blake 50+
Having said that, I do have some grasp of the topic only becuase I was living in your region for some years recently.
The Maoists have so much power in Nepal because they have been there for many years; because their propaganda easily influences the masses of poor people there; etc. But they are not the only ones involved in child trafficking - it is highly prevalent on your own door step, by your own people.
The naxals will be easily coopted to join the Maoist, the poverty in Bihar and other states already attract Maoist activists. India needs to be very afraid - Maoists took over Tibet, have Nepal under control and they are coming for you!
Tarun Mahani
(b) The consent of a victim of trafficking in persons to the intended exploitation set forth in subparagraph (a) of this article shall be irrelevant where any of the means set forth in subparagraph (a) have been used;
(c) The recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of a child for the purpose of exploitation shall be considered “trafficking in persons” even if this does not involve any of the means set forth in subparagraph (a) of this article;
(d) “Child” shall mean any person under eighteen years of age.[5]
Tarun Mahani
Human trafficking is the illegal trade of human beings mainly for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation or forced labor. Other purposes can be extraction of organs, or tissues[1][2] or even surrogacy or ova removal[3]
The Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, especially Women and Children (also referred to as the Trafficking Protocol) was adopted by the United Nations in Palermo, Italy in 2000, and is an international legal agreement attached to the United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime. The Trafficking Protocol is one of three Protocols adopted to supplement the Convention.[4] The Protocol is the first global, legally binding instrument on trafficking in over half a century and the only one that sets out an agreed definition of trafficking in persons. The purpose of the Protocol is to facilitate convergence in national cooperation in investigating and prosecuting trafficking in persons. An additional objective of the Protocol is to protect and assist the victims of trafficking in persons with full respect for their human rights. The Trafficking Protocol defines human trafficking as:
Krisztián Pintér 200+
1. what maoists do or don't do?
2. what maoists want?
3. why the maoists disagree with the government if they are in the government?
4. what other's say? who are those others?
5. etc
Krisztián Pintér 200+
i don't know what that's got to do with "trafficking". trafficking usually means illegal or involuntary. migration should not be illegal. involuntary trafficking, aka slavery, is a common crime, which should handled within the criminal justice system.
Gail . 50+
We, as societies allow human trafficking to continue because we are not willing to allow the only cure to almost all of our social problems to be discussed.