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Drew B
  • Drew B
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Why don't people believe in God?

if it were even the slightest possible chance that there is a hell and its a place of everlasting torment and hate wouldnt you want to make sure there isnt one by checking every possible source of information and proof that God does not exist or does?

And why do most people who ask themselves this question and go search for answers come back a christian?

yeah the whole idea can be denied with logical reasoning but you got to look at where this idea came from and how much we can trust this information. When you search for those facts they cant be denied and once you experience what God does in your life you will know its real. If you dont believe in it you should have proof andt the strongest possible evidence of everything that cant be denied.

I want to look at what you guys think and why you guys don't. Please dont attack other peoples ideas and thought and be open with every ounce of reasoning you can come up with.

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    Apr 4 2011: Somewhere in this conversation someone asks "Why does God need fans ?"
    My take on that is that God does not "need" anything but because God is love God wants to share Love.
    Love is never non-giving and self-contained. I am going to use a mataphore.....I see God as a Divine Flame and I am a spark from that Divine Flame. You can see where you can go with that ! Right ?
    • Apr 5 2011: >Somewhere in this conversation someone asks "Why does God need fans ?"<
      That was me, and that was how the catechism sounded to me in the first grade. I don’t think the nuns were particularly interested in debating the finer points of theology with a six year old.

      As far a God being a Divine Flame, or Love, sharing Love, or whatever, that's just word games. Certainly I’ve been fortunate to experience selfless love, both as a giver & receiver. And it is real to me, if not objectively measurable or scientifically provable to others.

      I also experience sense of the Divine; at sunsets, storms, children’s giggles, butterflies, the changing seasons, etc. (deer ticks, not so much). And I feel awe and/or wonder for; Mobius strips, (well prepared) Italian food, a rolling laboratory & radio station wandering around Mars taking pictures, Samuel Barber, and good hair days.

      None of which require a belief in a conscience supernatural entity for me to appreciate and be thankful for the experience.
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        Apr 5 2011: V I am glad that your life is so filled with goodness and beauty. Consider my views as word games if you wish, I was using a metaphore to explain and I really don't understand why you say, with such seeming certainty, that my views are nothing but word games. I also experience the Divine as you do. BTW I have an aversion to deer ticks, etc. I don't quite understand your last sentence. Conscience is to me a noun and I don't know what you mean by "conscience supernatural entity". (:>)
        • Apr 5 2011: I believe he meant conscious.
        • Apr 5 2011: My life filled with goodness & beauty? Ha! I wish! It’s not always and not now, but fortunately often enough.

          If God means love, then yes I believe in God. If God means a conscious creator, then no. (Thank you, Ryan.)

          If God can mean whatever you want it to mean, then why people believe, or don’t believe, in God, will depend on what you mean by God. You clearly said you were using a metaphor, so perhaps ‘Word Games’ was the wrong way to state this. I’m sorry if I offended.

          I read Drew’s question as making an argument that one has a chance of going to hell if one didn’t believe in God and one would be happier if one did believed in him. Perhaps we should ask Drew what he means by God.

          (PS, Ryan, I’m a she, not a he.)
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        Apr 5 2011: Vi............................I personally do not believe that "God" has any kind of hell prepared for humans. Although I would no longer describe myself as Roman Catholic...I do think that Pope John Paul did have some good notions, such as when he said Hell is not a place. To me heaven or hell is something one creates for themselves and certainly it exists only in this world. It is a state of mind....Icannot comprehend the essence of God...that I think is beyond anyone's ken. I don't believe in atonement rather I think in terms of at-one-ment Love is the one thing that can satisfy me...therefore I reject any other synonem for God. I really think Drew has not experienced the freedom of Love. And yes, if Drew has a description of God then I would reject that.

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