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The Dow is steadily improving while the national quality of life is consistently worsening.

Barack Hussein Obama's first term is over. The numbers are: 1) National Debt up 54.7%. 2) Unemployment up 0.7%. 3) Poverty up 6%. 4) Approval rating down 18%. 5) Dow Jones Industrial Average up 72%!! Explain this disconnect between America's vital signs.


Closing Statement from edward long

25 contributors offered these points to ponder
~ we need new goals
~distribution of wealth is broken
~it's a bubble and it's going to burst soon
~statistics are inherently deceptive
~we are printing too much unbacked money
~the government is spending too much
~It's Barack Hussein Obama's fault
~5 folks said there is no more connection between Wall Street and Main Street
~we are loading debt onto future generations
~small investor confidence is at all time low
~younger folks American dream includes tech toys but no home ownership
~money can't but happiness
~the top secret TPP is to blame
~Big Pharma is parasitic
~the Military is a budget buster
~ It's NAFTA's fault
~we are living in the New World Order
~Deflation Depression
~Exessive China trade for shoddy merchandise
~Free Trade is good
~US corporate tax is world's highest
~the Landlord Bubble
~youth becoming deluded narcissists
~middle class being strangled by inflation
~the Media is way off target
~poor getting poorer is new phenomenon
~US is too big to fail
~need term limits for Representatives
~need to repeal the 17th Amendment
~need to revise the 16th Amendment
~need to reduce Cabinet positions to seven
~need to go Isolationist
~stop paying Dictators for permission to feed their starving masses
~we have a Placebo Democracy
~all profit comes from someone's pocket
~leaders are corrupt
~Government creates no wealth
~copyright laws benefit the elite only
~people are the whole problem
~Quantitave Easing
~all should read "The Creature From Jeckyl Island"
~only Economists can understand
~we elect politicians rather than people
~Debt and the Dow are proportional
~debt can be invested
~unemployment and wages are inversely proportional
~poverty causes wage reduction
~low wages stimulate profit and productivity
What was not mentioned, surprisingly to me, was if the DJIA got Barack Hussein Obama re-elected
Have a look at the 9 links in the post
Conclusion?. . . Wall Street and Main Street are independent!!

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    Jan 27 2013: I am not a supporter of Barack Obama, but the fact that you managed to include his middle name and misspell his first name reveals your political bias. With a 100+ TEDcred one would expect a person to be able to spell the first name of his/her president.
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      Jan 28 2013: Thank you for the correction of the first name of the POTUS. I am astonished that I have been misspelling it for these long four years. Is using his middle name an insult to him, his heritage, his supporters, or the people of the United States? I don't see how that could be unless there is some prevailing anti-Islamic sentiment. I do not consider the name to be anything to be ashamed of. You are proud of the name Faisel are you not? I will try to find a copy of his birth certificate to confirm the spelling, but I trust you are correct. By the way do you equate a 100+ TED Cred score with good spelling? Check some of the conversations and you will abandon that belief. Thanks again for your tutorial. Do you have anything on-topic to add Faisal?
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        Jan 28 2013: You're welcome Mr Ling.

        I don't see the inclusion of his middle name as an insult per se. But when it is deliberately included, whilst misspelling his first name; completely ignoring the impact of his predecessor; and ignoring the political climate in which he is forced to operate - the subtext becomes apparent.

        Again I'm not a supporter of Obama, but George Herbert Walker Bush didn't have to operate with a congress, where the majority saw it as their prime goal to obstruct all his policies to prevent him from being re-elected.

        I'm not attacking your ability to spell. What I am saying is that you are perfectly capable of spelling the name of your president. And you don't need a birth certificate for that. If you're in doubt you can use this website: www.google.com
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          Jan 28 2013: Again, Mr. Butt, thanks for the correctiive counsel you have given me. I assure you I did not intentionally misspell the POTUS's name for the last 4 years. Are you sure you are not an Obama supporter? Because you demonstrate heroic passion in defending him from imagined offenses. You do remember saying, "I am not a supporter of Barack Obama. . . " don't you? I hope you agree that ad hominem argument adds nothing to furthering understanding of the issue addressed by this post. Again, what do you think is the cause and/or significance of the conflicting statistics pointed out in this post? Thanks for the link, but I totally prefer Bing. For the record my surname is Long, not Ling. Be well sir!
        • Jan 28 2013: A fine retort Mr. Butt!

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