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Solving gun violence in the US in today's insane political climate requires a solution that makes it painless for everyone.

First that this idea even needs to be broached in the first place is ridiculous especially given the lack of clarity in the second amendment (eg it does not specify types of arms so that should be handled by laws not as a "do what you will free for all").

That said it seems there are some major elements that would be necessary to reduce gun deaths in the US and there are some obfuscating interests embodied in the NRA that must be sidestepped or accommodated in the solution.

Four main areas of focus jump out to reduce gun deaths:

1) "mass killings" (included in this would be the 2 or 3 person shootings as well as as Newtown or Aurora types)
2) Accidental shootings
3) Non-owner shootings (eg the shooter is not the owner of the gun)
4) "black market" trading

Added to these I would say the parameter that makes gun control legislation difficult is gun manufacturer revenue stream protection using the second amendment as a shill.

So what are the necessary parameters to make something happen vs. the absurdity of what is going to happen over the next few months in Washington:

1) Figure out a way that shifting policy creates more revenue for gun manufacturers so they get the NRA on board
2) Make sure that guns cannot be used in public places or by someone other than their owner

The Idea - Mandatory gun locks and universal kill switches.

On locks, all responsible gun owners have gun safes. Why not move the lock to the gun's trigger mechanism either with a combination code or biometric locks. That would prevent unauthorized use of the gun by anyone but the owner.

On kill switches, in the same locking mechanism put a chip and actuator that freezes the locking mechanism mentioned above when it receives a certain modulated radio signal.

If mandatory then all existing guns will have to be refitted with the new bolt mechanism creating revenue streams for the gun manufacturers and on all new guns they can charge more creating more revenue.

Thoughts?

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  • Jan 20 2013: There is something fundamentally 'wrong' with your countries society that these things keep happening. No, it is not the guns, or mental illness, or any other singular factor. It is a cultural problem, that exists for you alone in the 'developed', 'western', world.
    You alone.
    As they say, it takes 2 generations to truly change attitudes. Attitudes to what is accepted behaviour. Where did you go so wrong with that one? You seem to love a good war metaphor. Well how about this one:
    Someone who uses a gun is a COWARD. Pure and simple. It is the most cowardly of weapons. Distant, safe, clean.
    These mass shootings don't seem to happen at gun expos do they?
    Try that as a public message. Nothing else is working.
    Rob, your ideas are great.
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      Jan 20 2013: Nope the responsible gun owners just injure people at gun shows
      • Jan 21 2013: Are you referring to the accidents? Were any charges filed?No?Much like the "accidents" that occur all over most countries?By the way Ms Barnes, your country is doing so well

        http://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-reloads-as-gun-amnesties-fail-to-cut-arms-20130113-2cnnq.html
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          Jan 21 2013: what that report is also missing Timothy is hat in 1997 there was 17million people in Australia there is now is now close to 23 million and if you read it closely it has the regulations as to what kind of firearms are allowed to be imported I never said we didn't have guns just that it was highly regulated. You should also realise that all of those firearms are registered and mainly in rural areas.

          Oh and I just saw 15 year old kills 5 with an assault rifle in New Mexico


          He's a thought for you Timothy how about helping become part of a solution everyone can be happy with instead of being worried about how it will impact on you and being so incensed about what the Government has to do to achieve it.
    • Jan 20 2013: thanks Geraldene. on thing though. it does happen in other societies. It happened in Scotland and Australia. (Actually pretty much every industrialized society has had these types of incidences.)

      They of course responded rationally and made it much harder to have a gun if you did not actually need one for a farm or a similar situation. I think Sweden shows that you will not stop everything, but other countries have reduced the rate of incidence to practically 0. Sweden I think also shows that even in a homogeneous society with pretty good mental health policies if someone wants to really fly under the radar and do damage in a free society it is well nigh impossible to stop them.

      I think what is unique about the US is our complete unwillingness to do the most obvious thing which is reduce availability or at the very least capacity. what is also unique lately is the way that small minorities seem to be able to hold the majority hostage with positions that are highly irrational. it seems to be a very strange case of their opinion is the only one that counts, no-compromise. Which is somewhat amusing since their opinions are generally poorly informed and have been spoon fed to them by PAC's.

      the idea that any regulation, limitation, or adjustment to a situation is an anathema is very strange and directly contradicts the way our government was designed to work. even in financial markets where the correlation of deregulation and catastrophic failure is perfectly obvious we cannot get around the vociferous minority that somehow thinks the market is just a hunky dory self-correcting wonder of the modern world. our willingness to throw everything under the bus to squeeze out a few more dollars is disturbing.

      unfortunately that is our political reality at the moment although the damage being done to our system on multiple fronts is quite worrying
      • Jan 22 2013: Hi Rob, I'm actually Australian, so I know we held the record for worst mass shooting by a lone gunman there for awhile. Nothing to be proud of to be sure.
        But it was over 20 yrs ago, and not a single one since.
        You know what the first thing the government did after it happened? Declared semi-automatic weapons illegal-any kind of automatic weapon or handgun already was. They had a buy back scheme and an amnesty for handing them in. The police will/ do turn up at your house, unannounced and check that you have your guns and ammo in separate, locked cases. Very few people complained because to be honest, they didn't want to look irrational in the aftermath of what had happened.
        Australia is a rural place, with lots of feral animals, so guns are common. But it's the culture that varies so much from your own. A gun is a 'tool' for doing a job, not a personal weapon for defense or otherwise. No one would even consider having a loaded gun laying around. IT"S DANGEROUS.
        And shooting someone is so cowardly.
        • Jan 22 2013: sorry about the first note then. could not agree more. and you did it under a conservative government, right? unfortunately here "conservative" pretty much translates as divorced from any rational reality (which must have Buckley rolling in his grave) and gerrymandering of districts has left a majority (or at least enough to screw things up) of wingnuts in the house. my main thinking above was how do you split off the economic interests from the political interests. once you do that the support for idiocy in governance should drop by about 50%.
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      Jan 20 2013: You've made a mistake thinking massacres and shootings only occur in the US. Take a look at the other school security changes made around the world: http://www.takepart.com/photos/just-enough-too-extreme-school-safety-around-world

      Also, keep in mind that the US has a huge population. We're dealing with enough people to fill up a continent. Naturally we're going to look quite chaotic against countries like Portugal. To make matters worse, we're trying to find a balance point between milieu of races and cultures - something for which we have no mentor to mimic. Keep things in perspective and allow room for error: I would say that GRACE is one thing we desperately need. We'll figure it out, just gotta take those baby steps.
      • Jan 22 2013: Lovely response.
        Many countries deal with overcrowding (Singapore), social/racial injustice (my own current country Malaysia), and all sorts of other strife and mayhem on a regular basis. They don't however have the huge problem with lone/dual shooter massacres that the USA has. Maybe a mass media cultural shift that I suggest may help?
        Very best of luck with the problem
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          Jan 24 2013: Ah cheers! It feels nice to have someone recognize my effort. :)

          The "loner massacre" - great name for it - is really quite freaky. I'd really be interested in a deep observation of the effects the act has on people convicted of such massacres instead of being quick to sentence them to the edge of society (in prison forever! or death!). The mob mentality that demands vengeance can harm our scientific understanding.

          Mass media is something I feel pervades many other countries, however, so I don't think that could be solely responsible for the anomalies we have here. The reason probably includes that aspect but isn't limited to it.

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