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We need a clear understanding of overpopulation so the economy can recover.

Well the debate over overpopulation causing harm to Earth and this stalling Capitalism's ability to grow an economy with supply side expansion and or Quality of Life expansion is now reaching a fevered pitch in debate between the liberal factions of society . THIS IS GOOD FOR GETTING THIS OUT INTO THE OPEN AND SOLVING IT .
Here is one liberal news agency arguing against the ideology that there are too many people on the planet ....

About That Overpopulation Problem
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/01/world_population_may_actually_start_declining_not_exploding.html
And then there are these arguments ....

But we need to debate these factions that are part of the Environmental society that are controlling through our Lobbying networks the Policy making and financial credit system that can help create jobs and a robust economic system that would promote Higher quality of life .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/audio/2012/apr/26/paul-ehrlich-depopulation-audio
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/08/opinion/gilding-earth-limits/index.html
pay attention to what they say in the youtube video at frame 1:45 ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tF2yHjfj32I
Urban populations will rapidly strain services, resources
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/Urban-populations-will-rapidly-strain-services-resources-183058531.html
So who is right ?

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Topics: Earth food overpopulation shortages supply water
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  • tony newbill

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    Jan 14 2013: Put these 3 stories together and it prints a Picture of Asian Dominance as the G-7 are becoming SERFS to China’s Supply and Resource dominance . The cause this will have on Individual incomes with inflation is going to collapse the ability of G-7 nations to keep stable their societies staples as part supply dependency from Asian suppliers that are the key ingredients in supplying everything needed for human survival will end up being in shorter and shorter supply as the debt of the G - 7 nations grow and the value of their currency declines causing less and less supply of parts from Asian to be acquired .
    The G-7 needs to reshape economic policy that puts the private sector back to work creating some of these parts supplies again like they were before the unfair WTO Trade Policies were implemented that started this trend of Dependency that now is reaching a level of dependency on these parts supplies that can be considered a National and International Security threat , not to mention this coming at a time when food supply is in short supply . We need to be Innovating supply expansion across the board to avert this disaster that looms in food security !

    The need to come up with a Leadership Worldwide Solvency roll FOR THE G-7 as well as the USA/ Obamanomics and deal with the Funneling effects on the Individual incomes that this Inflation trend is setting up .
    http://money.msn.com/bill-fleckenstein/post.aspx?post=bd3cbe82-5585-4a73-923e-dee69645e8d0

    Some way the Leverage that China has on Manufacturing needs to be balanced or the G-7 economies are going to all end up in SERFDOM to Chinas Supply and resources .
    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/01/14/US-and-China-Co-dependent-Trade-Rivals.aspx#page1

    The China Vacuum on G-7 economies , this is a US National Economic Security threat as well as a International one !!!
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235104578240942896915494.html

  • Random Chance 30+

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    Jan 13 2013: The real culprit (among many),
    is the population of pollution and the pollution of populations of all kinds.

    It isn't simply the population of humans.
    It is the management of our resources, or rather the mis-management of them, and they are in the wrong hands.
    They belong to every living thing on earth because every living thing on earth needs them, simply by being in existence.
    They need to be managed by the world rather than by corporations, countries or individuals.

    • tony newbill

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      Jan 13 2013: the plutocracy that is now in control internationally through the multi national corps that lobby governments and control the financial system as we saw the 2 big 2 fail culture bail themselves out with world tax payers monies and is still going on shows us that this will never change and the consequences are going to be disastrous it looks like .

      • Random Chance 30+

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        Jan 14 2013: Agreed.
        But at some point something bigger is going to collapse.
        How humans respond will be of utmost importance.
        The good thing is that it will be a very clear moment or opportunity,
        to extricate ourselves from their rule by not doing one thing they say,
        command, direct, order or threaten us/US with.
        That will set the tempo and direction to freedom, methinks, wishes and dreams of.

  • tony newbill

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    Jan 12 2013: There are conflicts of truth about the state of population food demand and the stories on the slate article by the way this crop report is effecting pricing . Long Term market growth and sustainability is at risk of Peoples Investments and Livelihood and these Stories need clarity for the Long term !!!

    Is there truth in crop data being released in relationship to Price Speculation that is raising the cost of living on an already Maxed out average income , or are we really experiencing supply shortages in our food supply ???
    http://origin-www.agweb.com/article/bullish_reports_electrify_grain_markets/?spMailingID=40818011&spUserID=Mzc4MzU1MTMwMjUS1&spJobID=174033655&spReportId=MTc0MDMzNjU1S0

    Then this Slate article totally contradicts the previous Slate article posted above ,

    It Is Absurd To Suggest That the World Population Could Decline Enough for Humans To Go Extinct
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/01/11/why_the_world_population_will_not_decline.html#article_comment_box

    These conflicts of Truth in our Market trends need resolve so we know if we need to be investing in supply side expansion in key areas like food in order to stabilize inflation and when we get these conflicting views in reporting that identifies Government data as the reason for their reports , then we see Government data being quoted in supply-side markets , this is where a Greater need of People getting involved in this debate needs to be taking place before we lose the window of time needed to make changes that can avert disasters like food shortages or challenge fraud in market speculation that's causing cost of living inflation which is a crime against humanity !
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    Krisztián Pintér 200+

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    Jan 12 2013: overpopulation exists only in the traditional media, and those that read nothing else. TED audience has no excuse, at least two talks deal with the situation:

    http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth.html

    http://www.ted.com/talks/matt_ridley_when_ideas_have_sex.html

  • george lockwood 20+

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    Jan 12 2013: We have for over 200 years Malthus, Darwin, Wallace, etc. Tony is right on the greedy elite.
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    W. Ying 10+

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    Jan 12 2013: Yes.
    We need a clear understading that:
    (1) The over-population is not for our LIFE GOAL ---- Keeping our DNA alive.
    (2) The over-growth of economy not for our LIFE GOAL, neither. It is for INVALID happiness only. It hurts the keeping our DNA alive, too.


    (For LIFE GOAL, see the 1st article, points 1-3, 14, at https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=D24D89AE8B1E2E0D&id=D24D89AE8B1E2E0D%21283&sc=documents)

  • tony newbill

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    Jan 11 2013: See the Ideology that’s ROOTED in the Minds of the Powerful Elite ? This effects Economic Policy ... they say so in this article , so this is where we need debate on if Investing in the Free Market with these Ideologues monkeying around with the controls of how we Finance regulate and drive Free Market economic Opportunity when these guys see that as a Threat to the Earth is why we need Clarity on if we have a Free Market that won’t Grow and instead keeps collapsing ? How can we have faith in the Free Market capitalist system and keep wanting to Invest when the policies that effect growth in supply side Market Expansion that equates to true Value growth and equitable Growth is being Tampered with ? This is why Governments have no way to generate a balanced tax revenue stream .

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jan/08/geoengineering-hijack-world-climate

    Are they causing more Violent Weather ???? http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/geoengineering
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