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What do you think about the Israel and Gaza war?

Hello im an Israeli 17 year old boy since i came here at 2002 the south of the country was bomd it had some quiet time but always just for regroup of the Hamas forces.. like the last operation tha Israel did and prevent an huge attack from gaza that will take half of Israel under control but now after month and half Gaza ALREADY GAIND 80% of the arms that Israel destroyd they send warior to train in iran and they said "We planing a surprise"

what do you think israel should do to protect its people and how the WHOLE world can help to stop this war!?!?

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    Abdelbari Khiar

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    Jan 10 2013: You're talking about who is attacking first ? well let me ask you somethings,
    -who started this whole thing in the first place ? Isn't Israel the first one who started the war ? Isn't Israel who occupied the Palestinian lands ? Isn't Israel who's killing and torturing and raping the Palestinian lands everyday ? Isn't Israel who violates the international laws in front of the public opinion ?
    Do you remember the war that Israel started against Gaza from :" December 27th 2008 to January 18th 2009".and which I prefer to call ( Aggression on Gaza ) as the balance of powers wasn't equal, you army called this war " מבצע עופרת יצוקה ". I won't give you a history course here. So, you said in you reply to Xavier Belvemont that Hamas is using terror methods, let me tell you that in this war 1417 Palestinians were killed ( 926 civilians, which 412 were kids and 111 women ) and 4336 were injured, while 10 Israeli soldiers were killed,3 civilians, 400 were injured and most of them were just terrified and not physically injured. Israel used white phosphorus munitions during the conflict, and we all know what white phosphorus is. Israel breached the truce more than a 1000 times during the truce, Israel targeted hospitals and health centers during the war, you also targeted the UNRWA office who was providing food and help... So who the hell is using the " terror method"? when it's about palestinians everything is permissible and licit and no one says a word, when it comes to Israelis, you start crying and calling UN and US to help you and protect you when an Israeli citizen was terrified because of a rocket who landed a mile far away and not even exploded !!! you make me feel like you are humans and they are animals or even less!
    Israelis, stop putting yourself in the skin of the victim always cause we got enough from and made us feel sick, when Gaza is attacked i feel upset, when you lie in my face i feel my blood boiling in my veins .For god's sake,When will you feel ashamed ?
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      Gleb Tyunikov

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      Jan 10 2013: you saying that israel killed so many people and destroyed so many stuff.. did you asked yourself why the attacked there? i tell you why cause the rockets been shooting from neiborhoods, hospitals, the safes of the rockets and arms is under all those facilitys, dont get me wrong im against killing children and women but not when theyre soldiers who wants to kill me. and again int the war you talking about i was 11 years old im not wrong and you know that an month and a half before i didnt sudied at my school because i couldnt go out of my house because of the rockets and just after a month and a half of bombin the war started so please i belive what i hear and see not what i watch on the internet and TV
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 10 2013: Very convincing ! If someone came and took your land from you, wouldn't you try to take it back even if you had to use rockets ??? Oh, that's what you do because you think that Palestine is your land ! don't you ? Do you really believe only what you see and hear ? Read history from an external source than your school book, you'll be amazed of the amount of lies that you have been taught because you have one story of Israel, some are true and a lot are wrong ... . I heard once a rabbi talking and i was very amazed when he said that Israel has no land according to the Torah and that they are protesting against Israel and that they fight for a cause which is " eliminate Israel and declaring Palestine as an independent state "
        watch this, it might enlighten you :

        http://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story.html
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          Gleb Tyunikov

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          Jan 10 2013: listen i never said anything about the bible or things about god because i dont belive in this.. but israel have a land here because of the holocaust that we were been through.. and after that israel or palestain if youd like were split into 2 countries and palastine had more lands in this split the israelies whove been here agreed to that while palastines didnt and like i said in comments to XB the nations around attacked us we resisted and captured the lands so its our lands now not palastine and we took more after few years at another war and after one war we gave back Sinay to Egypt in exchange for peace and we gave palastine Gush Katif few years ago but we still beign boomed after we gave back lands. so please if you dont belive what im saying come to my village and feel the reality of leaving 2.2km from gaza while you being bombed. and im not learnig those facts from israeli text book but from world wide sources thats the reason why im chating with you here in TED.
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 11 2013: Isn't this a confess ? Where were you before ? who was living in palestine before ? So you're the ones who came to Palestine, isn't this occupation ? and does holocaust give you the right to occupy other lands ? holocaust was in Germany, why didn't you go to Germany ? Palestine was occupied by England, and than left for Israel to continue the occupying; The things you do to palestinians are the same as Holocaust I guess. The bombing will continue until they take their lands back and so are you, you will continue to bomb them until they stop bombing you. This a non ending war, if you want peace, look for it in somewhere out of th middle east .
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          Gleb Tyunikov

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          Jan 11 2013: we have the right to live here beccause in palestine not only plastine people were living but the zions before the ww2 and we got the right from UN to go and live here.
          and please dont say we are doing holocaust to the palestine because we dosnt put them in gethos and killing them and we dosent making them work for us we suppling them food and very very much food tons of trucks so please they not in condition of holocaust and im saying that becasue its fact that they living very good not all of them but most of them and im saying it because im talking with palestines from gaza in forums online and see their homes by pictures that they are filming.
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        Gail . 50+

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        Jan 12 2013: So there was a holocaust, and Europe so hated Jews that they didn't want to give them German lands in which to establish their state (though the Versailles Treaty gave away MOST german land after WWI - so why not give German land to the Jews?). So in their false kindness, they gave Jews someone else's land AS IF THEY HAD A RIGHT TO DO SO.

        You say that Gazans are living very good? Do you understand how uniformed you are? Do you know what the unemployment rate is? Do you know how dense the population is? Do you know that Israel works diligently to prevent employment, decent housing, access to enough food, educational opportunities, and to deny life-sustaining resources that would make Gaza a "decent" place to live?
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        Gail . 50+

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        Jan 12 2013: Gleb, When you start a story in the middle, the story doesn't make sense. Your story doesn't make sense.
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 14 2013: Let me ask you something : What is the meaning of the Israeli flag ?
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          Krisztián Pintér 200+

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          Jan 14 2013: really what? i tried to look up, and found only generic things, like the star of david representing judaism in general, the color white is for peace and honesty, blue is loyalty, wisdom, heaven and other things. i wonder what is your point here. are you sure you read the right sources?
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 14 2013: @Krisztián Pintér ;
        To be honest, no ! there are lot of sources, I tried to avoid the arabs' forums because they all say the same thing, so I did my researches in english and french to try to have multiple versions of the same story, are you sure of yours ? Mine ( my point here ) says that the flag "secretly" represents the desire of Jews to conquer all of the land between the Nile and Euphrates rivers, which would involve conquering and ruling over much of Egypt, all of Jordan, and some of Syria and Iraq.
        They say it's an allegation but nothing insures the inverse !!! This is one of the meanings, as you picked one of the meanings, why have you chosen to say that the star is the star of david ? are you sure from the source ? cause it means a lot of other things. And to be honest and open, anything that comes from the state of Israel ( this is called official information ) is unbelievable to me.
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          Krisztián Pintér 200+

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          Jan 14 2013: how would you "insure" the nonexistence of an allegedly secret motive? any sort of counterargument just another clue how secret the thing is. the good question is: how do we know it is true? do we have any supporting evidence? i mean, any?
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 16 2013: You can check this out, this is only the beginning i guess, More supporting evidences can be found by reading history, there are things you can never find unless if you read history written by arabs but you can say that this is not true ! this is something like me trying to tell a christian that Jesus is not the son of god, but he has a book that says that Jesus is god's son and I have a book who says that Jesus is the God's Prophet ! Or me trying to convince you that there is a creator of this universe and you and everything because I read it on a book and learnt it when I was a child,
        this is not about what to believe, this is about what we want to believe !
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        Abdelbari Khiar

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        Jan 16 2013: I've forgot to paste the link after "check this out", here it is
        http://fasttimesinpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/four-panel-map.jpg

        but Never mind, the truth is there for those who want to see it ! Why are we stuck with this flag while there are hundreds of other evidences about Israel's terrorism against Palestinians ? !

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