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Bruno Kapetanovic

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Can planet earth merge with other civilization to improve level of civilization ? What our civilization can offer in exchange ?

According to The Soviet astronomer ( scientist) Nikolai Kardashev , scale method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement, is based on the amount of energy a civilization is able to utilize.

The scale has three designated categories called Type I, II, and III. A Type I civilization uses all available resources impinging on its home planet, Type II harnesses all the energy of its star, and Type III of its galaxy. The scale is only hypothetical and in terms of an actual civilization, highly speculative; however, it puts energy consumption of an entire civilization in a cosmic perspective.

Others have extended the scale to even more hypothetical Type IV beings who can control or use the entire universe, or Type V that control collections of universes. Metrics other than pure power usage have also been proposed, such as 'mastery' of a planet, system or galaxy rather than considering energy alone, or considering the amount of information controlled by a civilization rather than the amount of energy

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    Jan 6 2013: The only thing we can offer them is greed, war and hatred.
    We need to find peace in ourselves before even thinking of any external interaction.
    • Jan 6 2013: How do you know "they" are above greed, war and hatred? They evolved from wild animals too.
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        Jan 6 2013: I don't think they're better than us or more advanced. I just think we need to resolve all the disputes between ourselves before bringing other people into it, because we'll probably end up going to war against them and end up getting wiped out or enslaves.

        But then again the difference between ourselves and monkeys are only a few percentage in DNA, but in those few percentage we were able to build machines that fly whereas monkey are like retarded in comparison to us.
        So if there really are people out there i don't see why they would want to contact us since the DNA percentage would probably be like thousands in range, which would make us look like dribbling microbes in comparison to them (if the exist)
        • Jan 7 2013: "I just think we need to resolve all the disputes between ourselves before bringing other people into it,"

          That's just not realistic and contacting others can be just the catalyst this planet needs to grow up (our problems would suddenly seem so small in the grand scheme of things).

          "So if there really are people out there i don't see why they would want to contact us since the DNA percentage would probably be like thousands in range, which would make us look like dribbling microbes in comparison to them"

          We wouldn't share any DNA with them since chances are they won't have DNA but some other genetic structure that's incompatible with ours. I think they'd judge us not on our genetics but on our mental potential. The "we'd be like ants to them" narrative is false I believe: they'd definitely notice us as one of the few lifeforms that could rival them given a few more centuries to develop.
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    Jan 7 2013: ...once our planet become energy independent there will be no reason for fears !
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    Jan 7 2013: But if our civilization become independents from current earth energy source and level of technological advancement,
    improve can we offer something in return ?
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    Jan 7 2013: This planet has nothing of value to offer an extra-terrestial civilization - other than natural resources.

    Most of humanity is barbaric. If we were allowed to infect other cultures, it would be with the same consequences that happened when the USA infected other cultures with its illness.

    Our barbarity is a "choice", and that choice is made because we worship our fears.
  • Jan 6 2013: "Can planet earth merge with other civilization to improve level of civilization?"

    If you mean to increase energy availability to the point where both civilizations will have access to breakthroughs they couldn't make on their own, then yes.

    "What our civilization can offer in exchange?"

    Energy, and if the other civilization isn't too far ahead of us, we can offer technology, knowledge and peaceful relations/military support.
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    Jan 6 2013: Merging with an alien civilization to our mutual benefit implies we have something they need or want. In all honesty, I think the only thing we may have to offer an advanced race of beings is our planets meager and dwindling resources and they might well just take what they want, if our own history is any indication. Furthermore, a truly advanced and civilized extra-terrestrial race would likely view us in our current state as a primitive, paranoid, violent and probably dangerous species worth only observing at a distance. Just a thought...
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    Jan 6 2013: Its an interesting question but its so highly speculative and there are so many variables that any answer is redundant, ultimately.

    Whether we could merge with another civilizaton (which I assume you mean Alien in origin) would entirely depend on the species and its capabilities. Anything too advanced and we risk being killed off, anything too lowly and they risk being killed off by us, and thats just one example among thousands.

    The same applies to what we could offer in exchange. It could be literally anything. From Methane to business heirarchy..
    The only way to really answer the question is to have a complex hypothetical model to base the answer on, such as how the live, what they look like, how they act, where they are, when this would happen...everything really.