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Colton Cutchens

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How much of a right do students have to questioning and independent thinking?

What is your opinion on how much students should be allowed to question? Do they have the right to question if they may see a logical fallacy? If so, how far are they allowed to question it? Why?

In addition: I understand teachers try to allow students to question, but sometimes are limited by the administration (and/or bureaucracy). Why is this?

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    Jan 4 2013: Cotton,James..can you be specific as to what questions ,changes you wished to make about the education system itself. I will temporarily suspend my angst if you can illustrate what specically you wish to change,restructure or discuss that you administration has blocked. If teachers are limited by their administrations,I am more willing to believe it, if its not general references but ...what is admin saying,or not answering to. Obviously I am not a teacher,,,,but once again I am still willing to learn...If you do not answer my questions fully it will remind me of how I experience teachers in general...they dont listen,and say long obscure comments that are full of implied information,but avoid all specifics...prove me wrong...
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      Jan 4 2013: No problem Carolyn.

      I can only speak for the curriculum here in the UK however, I know many of you are speaking more specifically about the situation in the US.

      In our SATs tests that children have to take at two points during their Primary education only reading, writing, maths and now grammar are tested and we have to give a child a level dependent on very narrow criteria. Teachers almost without exception dislike these tests; they force professionals to narrow the scope of what we cover to fit thay criteria that does not take into account the great raft of different skills and attributes the children have. Also, prior to this government coming into power a new more child centred curriculum was ready to come into being based around 6 areas of learning and with much more importance placed on child initiated activities. This was immediately scrapped by the new government with nothing prepared to take it's place.

      Just a couple examples for you.
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        Jan 4 2013: Thankyou..so you teach reading,math grammar ,and writing,ok..so is what you read only about english culture and values and lifestyle,or english history? Is the writing to indicate you memorized a certain way to think,or reason or talk...Is speech limited to english habits of speaking,our way of saying things only...what is narrow about what you teach,or is the test narrow itself,and what unique skills would be eliminated as insignificant that you are denied to include. The dismissed curriculum..what were the 6 areas that are child centered..please name all six(please) What government,under who dismissed this child centered curriculum? I ask these questions because I would like to be wise and when I speak of problems in systems,I cannot afford to be vague . Really this is not to hurt a group of people(although reading some of my comments you would think I may be very judgemental) yet it is to locate the inefficiency so we can create an incentive to dislodge the ineffective (harmful) methodology.I take life and protecting children very seriously...I constantly interview kids about life and watch all current cartoons to review what we are doing to them
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          Jan 4 2013: Apologies, but there is a little too much in your reply to respond to here.

          But briefly, the new curriculum was based on the findings on The Cambridge Primary Review, you should be able to find more information if you search for that.

          I would say that what I find limiting is the assessment frameworks, the criteria being very narrow and also the fact that the rely too heavily on children being able to write well within a short space of time which doesn't give many children a good opportunity to show what they can do. Also the fact that it is only these subjects that are assessed doesn't show the progress the children make across the curriculum or in their personal/social development.

          We don't only focus on English culture; we spend a great deal of time learning about other cultures. Through topic work where we might focus on the history, geography, art, dance and social aspects of other cultures. In religious education we take time to study all the major faiths of the world and how they have helped to influence the lives of others. In English we look at stories from unfamiliar cultures and seek to draw paralels with our own. Many schools across the UK also link with schools from other parts of the world to help foster better understanding. There are many other ways we try to prepare our children for the world they will need to thrive in. I'm sorry that you feel so let down by those who taught you.
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          Jan 4 2013: I notice I said briefly then wrote loads. Teachers hey!

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