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Education "vouchers" solve the fiscal crisis, and also lead to economic recovery?

Simply open up K-12 education to the market place, with government only playing a role by financing the students with a yearly education check of $8000.

*www.usagovernmentspending.com shows American local governments spending $458.3 billion for K-12 education in 2012.
*(Sir Ken Robinson says this education system is a complete failure)
*The new education cost of $8000 education check to 50 million K-12 students is $400 billion per year
*This saves $58.3 billion
*(a $6000 check would save $158.3 billion)
*The yearly education check allows students(and their parents) to choose how, when, where, and what they learn, and also who teaches them
*The yearly education check of $8000 opens up a $400B/year market to entrepreneurs, teachers, and creatives
*($6000 check opens up a $300B/year market to entrepreneurs, teachers, and creatives)

State fiscal crisis solved, federal fiscal crisis solved, and the new education market leads America's economic recovery.

Thoughts everyone?

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  • Jan 14 2013: $8,000 seems like it would save us money....The problem is this:

    The average cost of private school is $20,000 a year. Of course, the really good ones can cost more than $40,000 a year.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/06/22/private-school-tuition-hits-the-stratosphere-40-000-per-year/

    Public education makes sense. The results are similar, yet costs (according to Petar's ted conversation: $458.3 billion / 50 million K-12 students ) are only $9,166
    • Jan 14 2013: Brock,
      I chose $8000 as a bare minimum to have fun with frugality. It's easy as pie when every K-12 student is handed $20,000 a year for 1,000 instructional hours of learning.

      If the voucher money was set to $20,000, then everyone would have the money to attend a secular private school at the current elitist prices. That might make vouchers more appealing to you. Then secular schools would have a market and could scale. They can't right now because government has a monopoly on education.

      When the government ran the food service industry in East Germany, there were upscale restaurants for the political elite. This mimics the private schooling prices in America. The American education system is socialist, centrally planned, and run by the politicians just like the East German schooling and food cafeterias.

      Central planners and socialists believed the population was better off with government running cafeterias for the entire country. They thought the population would starve if the food service industry was opened to the market. They brought up the same concerns people do here: The rich and greedy will rob, steal, and cheat the vulnerable. The poor are helpless. The masses are stupid. The masses are too incompetent. Government provides healthier food than parents can for their own children. Government knows better than parents what's good for their children to eat. The result was starvation and malnutrition.

      The natural experiment in governing policies fared much better in West Berlin... but those results were unseen by everyone blocked by the wall, and the same things are unforeseen with changing the American education system.

      Turning America away from East German education requires:
      -Government to finance education, but not manage, not operate.
      -Politicians removed from education money and decisions.
      -Education money and liberty put into the hands of the parents and students so they can choose when, what, where, how, and who teachers them.
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        Jan 14 2013: Peter,,
        I liked your your comments and comparisons to East Germany, I lived in West Germany from the mid 80's until 05. I got to look over the fence when it was up and again when it was down. Here is what I observed. The USSR was seen here as a dictatorship. They said they were a workers socialist government looking out for the working class (middle class?). What I saw was " Plato's Republic "
        in it's worse form. Is there a lesson here for all of us?
        • Jan 14 2013: That money and choice belongs in the hands of the people, and not in the hands of the state?
      • Jan 14 2013: The point is, Petar, vouchers do not reduce the cost of education, they increase it. This is the heart of your key argument - an argument which fails miserably. Sure, we can increase the voucher to 20k, but that destroys your entire ted-conversation argument.

        It is clear that government is capable of operating more efficiently than the private sector when it comes to education. It achieves similar results as private institutions, all the while maintaining open admissions and providing more choices for the students. All for less than half the price of a private education.

        You can try to drum up classic Soviet fears, but it is free market economics where you fail. It simply costs less to continue with public education. 9k is less than 20k. The math is clear, your ted-conversation argument is moot.

        Checkmate.
        • Jan 15 2013: Quit lying Brock.

          You write with an agenda to undermine religion, and your anti-religious bigotry is coming out quite nicely. It's unbelievable that moderators have not removed you from this conversation.

          You wrote earlier "Properly funded public schools out perform private schools." So I raised the price of vouchers to $20,000 to see your response. And what did you do? You start lying. You are again twisting my words, spinning my context, replying to comments designated for me with patently false information, and lying about math not adding up.

          You do not write out of good faith, or out of curiosity, or out of desire to improve education. You are blinded by a religious-hate agenda.
      • Jan 16 2013: How can you accuse me of lying when it is YOUR numbers that I am using? YOU are the one that claims vouchers will allow poor kids to attend the same schools as the wealthy. We both know that is impossible given the outrageous costs of an elite private education($40k+). More than that, we also both know that is impossible given the cost of an average private education($20k).

        Increasing vouchers to $20k increases the cost of education. Once again, this is based on YOUR numbers. It is almost as if you were incapable of understanding your OWN arguments.

        It is not my agenda to undermine religion, it is YOUR agenda to use tax dollars to fund it. I am simply defending the establishment cause of the 1st amendment. You, however, are mocking it.

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