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People, by and large, hate war ... because, they are the ones who have to bear its brunt, not their sabre rattling leaders .

A healthy 'sign' ... but with continued building of new Settlements in the occupied lands ... I will take these fresh overtures as nothing more than normal sifting of the clutch by a roosting hen ... thats about all ... nothing to celebrate.

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  • Dec 23 2012: Regardless of the comments ... I maintain ... that the "Cliff" in reality remains the erstwhile Carrot.
    Semantics, cannot change the reality ... Thats why, I just say whatever I have to say ... and move on.
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    Dec 22 2012: The proof of desire is pursuit; but someone says 'if you want peace, prepare for war'.
    Our world as it is, is not very convincing in its pursuit of peace. We may hate war if we are affected, but we seem unconcerned if it is happening in some distant land.
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    Dec 22 2012: Such a miniscule part of our planet.
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    Dec 22 2012: Well, I probably judge people by both. As I watch the actions of the leaders of the world, I see them going to great effort not to go to war, most of them most of the time. Maintaining diplomacy, maintaining embassies and consulates, maintaining secretaries of state, going to the effort of traveling to other countries and meeting with foreign leaders. Of course there may be exceptions.
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      Dec 22 2012: i would argue that they do that because they fear the loss of popularity. the political machine is highly cynical, and valueless. as it should be, by the way, as organizations don't have souls, they just operate by the rules of the game.
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        Dec 22 2012: Krisztian, you must think that politicians are really different people from you and me. But why would they be, they're human beings, they have family, friends, many of them follow religions.
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          Dec 22 2012: no, i don't think they are different ... that much. they sorta are, but it is not important. what is important that they do not act in line with their own beliefs. they are part of a system. no politician can change the system. so they either play by the rules of the game, or walk.
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      Dec 22 2012: Maintaining embassies and consulates and commissioners are vital to your countries profile until amicable relations are broken, put on pause or withdrawn due to business investment loss or deemed to be a loss to your countries benefit or government restructuring.

      Can't wait for Castro to go quietly, there is a sense of anticipation with that sleeping island.
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    Dec 22 2012: The global economy is a war-based economy. If we were to declare peace, it would all come tumbling down
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      Dec 22 2012: i have a rule of thumb: if someone uses the word "based" in a reasoning, that person probably does not know what he is talking about. it does not have an actual meaning. take a word with vague emotional content, slap "based" on it, and you are good to go.
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        Dec 22 2012: I am perfectly capable of giving you a LOT of evidence to support my statement. I have done so often in my posts on TED. I am very educated in fiscal paradigms and the relationship of war to fiscal policy.

        It appears that you don't know what you are talking about. Your words are sufficient evidence for that.
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          Dec 22 2012: what is a "fiscal paradigm"? how did we end up talking about fiscal matters, we were talking about the economy. granted, state budgets are alarmingly huge, they still only a part of the economy, and military expenditures are an even smaller part of the budget, and war costs are only a part of the total military budget. granted, again, that we spend way more on wars than we should, but its implications are next to nothing on the economy. quite the opposite is true. our entirely crazy economic policies enable war spending, among others.
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        Dec 22 2012: You said, "how did we end up talking about fiscal matters, we were talking about the economy". Perhaps you are not aware of what fiscal or economics mean?
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    Dec 22 2012: Syed, I think in many cases leaders hate war also. But if your country is attacked, what are you as the leader to do?
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      Dec 22 2012: at least they say so. i would recommend judging people by their actions, not their words.
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        Dec 22 2012: Krisztian, I neglected to push the reply tab in replying to your comment, so please see my comment above.