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Build peace: be on time

My Mom and Dad had written a few words on a paper and hung it on the wall in our kitchen. We grew up watching our parents invite all kinds of people into our home for dinners. Strangers. This included any person who was lost in the airport or someone they found lost on the street....A warm meal, pajamas, a clean bed in the guest room, a bathroom, and the next day after breakfast, often supplied with a gift (usually a sweater or socks), and a map they provided a ride to the train or bus station. Most of those people spoke a foreign tongue that none of us understood. But at the end of Mom and Dad's "hospitality adventure" my parents had added a line to their list on the wall and that person had walked away with theirs. To this day my family receives letters and visits from those travelers and their children and even grand children. Every time we gather together there is “letter” readings and....tears of joy.


The paper on the wall read:

Italian: Ti Amo
German: Ich Liebe Dich
Japanese: Ai Shite Imasu
Chinese: Wo Ai Ni
Swedish: Jag Alskar Dig
Greek: S'Agapo
Hawaiian: Aloha Wau La Oe
Irish: Thaim In Grabh Leat
Hebrew: Ani Ohev Otakh
Persian: Du Stet Daaram
Russian: Ya Lyublyu Tyebya
Albanian: Une Te Dua
Finnish: Mina Rakkastan Sinua
Turkish: Seni Seviyorum
Hungarian: Se Ret Lay
Maltese: Jien Inhobbok
Catalan: Testimo Molt
French: Je t'aime
Spanish: Te Amo
Eskimo: Nagligivaget
English: I love you

Now I wish my parents had learned to say " We love you" instead.
Will you help me rewrite this list and include your language too ??

~~ With Happy New Year Wishes~~

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    Jan 21 2013: CREDITS - ' building peace : be on time - We Love You’. Ronny Edry, Elizabeth Gu, Matthew Kwong, Kate Blake, Abdelbari Khiar, Atalay Ata, Tamas Szulman, William Sager, Mari Hethcoat, Amirpouya Ghaemiyan, Jasmin Yaya, Frans Kellner, Feyisayo Anjorin, Lejan, Xavier Belvemont, Etsuko Sai, César Tommasi, Nikolaj Lyngbye Rasmussen, Helge Hasvold, Juliette Zahn.
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    Jan 4 2013: Love be with you, dear TEDster !
    I wish I have a life like what your lovely parents had ...

    As the below comment have said:
    "Ma doostetoon darim."

    With pure love from Iran,
    Amirpouya
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      Jan 5 2013: Thank you Amirpouya, very much!
      There is nothing as valuable as human relationships nor as durable as genuine love.
      I full-heartedly wish that for you!
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear Amirpouya,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Amirpouya,
      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration.
      Be well :)
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        Jan 21 2013: Dear Juliette,
        Every belief, every aim, and every hope I've followed in my life have ended to a lie and disappeared,
        But the only one I have never regret of, was love.
        You, just like Ronny, brought this amazing message to TED, so it's me who should be thankful of what you've done here, and ronny's talk.
        I've followed your post until today, and have enjoyed with every sign of love from you and other TEDsters here.

        Thanks for everything,
        Love be with you, one more time, and forever,
        Amirpouya
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Amirpouya,

          Thank you. Sounds to me like you have lived the human life....and you managed to keep your eyes on the only thing that matters; Love. Love is the only truth, all else is illusion. And I can see that you know this in your heart.

          I appreciate you and the great positive energy that you so generously brought into this and other TED conversations. Actually I will change that to relentless positive energy for you. It means a lot. As Ronny says, " people fear and hate, build walls, to keep others out, but they have never met and know nothing about these people." That era is now ended. The new era has begun.

          I am glad to know that someone is following this thread. I added a few words from some of the most remarkable people and listed TED Talks that can hopefully be helpful in keeping the pathway 'lit."
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    Jan 4 2013: Persian: Maa Doostetoon Daarim

    lovely story.
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      Jan 5 2013: Thank you Jasmin. And thank you for a wonderful addition to our collective list.
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear Jasmin,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Jasmin,
      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
  • Dec 30 2012: Hi Juliette, hi everybody,

    thank you really much sharing your story.
    And for this, some additional info, for hungarian language :)

    I. General infos:
    1.
    S+z = Sz in hungarian and you pronounce it like "s" from word "super"
    ő = you pronounce it like "ea" from "Earl grey tee"
    é = you pronounce it like "a" from "say"
    á = you pronounce it like

    ((see some more here: http://wikitravel.org/en/Hungarian_phrasebook))

    2. "You" - that has many translations in hungarian, it is very similiar to german in this viewpoint... ;)
    I = Én
    You = Te
    He / She / It = Ő
    We = Mi
    You = Ti
    They = Ők

    See... It is fun, 'cause the word "You" can have even more meenings in hungarian.
    You = friendly form if I say something to you Juliette, if you are just alone. "Hi Juliette, could you go to the shop?"
    You = polite for if you say somethinig to You Juliette, if you are just alone. "Please Mrs Juliette could You go to the shop?"
    You = if I say something to you, Juliette, and some more people with you. "Please could you go together to the shop?"

    II. "We love You":

    1. Szeretünk: It can be understood for every form of "You" told in I./2.
    2. Szeretünk Téged : In this longer form "Téged" is in german "Dich". That's what Lejan has written also about german. It is the accusative form of german "Du"=english "You".
    This "Téged" is the accusative of "Te", sooo, Singular person, friendly form --> see I. / 2 / second line... .;)))

    3. Szeretünk Titeket:
    In this longer form "Titeket" is in german "Euch". That's what Lejan has written also about german. It is the accusative form of german "Ihr"=english "You".
    This "Titeket" is the accusative of "Ti", sooo, Singular person, friendly form --> see I. / 2 / fifth line... .;)))

    III. "I love you"

    1. Szeretlek
    2. Szeretlek Téged : For "Téged" see above in II / 2, and I/2/second line
    3. Szeretlek Titeket: For "Titeket" see above in II / 3, and I/2/fifth line

    That's it. ;)
    Easy thing, just you have to get used to it :)
    I wish you all a happy new year,
    Tamas
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      Dec 30 2012: Hi Tamas,

      Thank You !! Your comment could not have come at a better time. A serious deprivation is cured since we woke up to a beautiful thick blanket of white snow....after not having had any last winter...... Also since we have been procuring the ingredients for my favorite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2009-09-gulasch-pörkölt-paprikas-3.jpg - I will come back to study my present (selfishly I take it all for myself ;-) from you and learn a bit of the hungarian language soon.

      In one of my past comments I mentioned that when I looked back on my long education I realized that the top professor for me was a Hungarian. He didn't teach languages but one of the things I learned was the " sz" sounding like "s" because his name was Dr. Szabo. I sometimes wonder if I like gulyás because of him. (We didn't eat it with him)

      For now I take with me " Szeretünk ".
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear Tamas,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      (To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny)
  • Dec 27 2012: we love you, in hebrew
    אנחנו אוהבים אתכם
    pronounced: anahnou (we) , ohavim (love,) ot-hem (you)

    ronny edry (fb: israel-loves-iran)
    from israel
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      Dec 27 2012: Thank you Ronny for freeing the hearts of all people - and showing us the way to building together - because that is the only way to having the life we all come here to have.

      And thank you for honoring us with your presence and contribution here.
      • Dec 28 2012: :)
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          Jan 17 2013: Dear Ronny,

          In honor of my parents, in light of all the good inspirational teachings and provisions with which they sent me forth in this life, and in honor of you, who brought the idea of peace on Earth to a tangible manifestation on an anniversary of their prayers; my birth, I have come up with a thought. I create the Zahn Peace Prize on this day 1/17/13. It is just a heart-felt recognition for the work you have done, for the holding and promotion of peace.

          In order to effectively put our good ideas to work, there has to be the means. But the will is the most important. That is what you have. And that is what you have inspired us to find in our hearts through your courage.

          As of now our work is cut out for us. I am still counting on my lucky stars to shine on and be able to put any physical means to my prize. So for now I hope you accept my dedication of this page to you. And I hand you the core directive passed onto me; ‘ just be a force of love in this world ’.
  • Jan 21 2013: Yeah, certainly I have already copied the result, the list of "we love you" from one of your comments;)
    But now it came tom mymind..maybe I will copy all of the comments - you know, as I have seen/read, not just the endresult is lovely (call it "what"..) but the way people have contributed to this simple but lovely idea (call it "how?")

    I really appreciate the whole story all of the contributors.
    The "what" and the "how" :)

    Ciao, tamas
  • Jan 21 2013: HI juliette. you know who I am : )
    私たちはあなたを愛しています。
    I wish all people from Israel or Iran get happiness.
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      Jan 21 2013: Hi Etsuko;

      Welcome and so wonderful to see you !!

      Thank your for your entry.

      Would you confirm that this is good or please make corrections

      私たちはあなたを愛しています

      ' Watashi Tatshi Wa Anata O Ai Shite Mas'

      WE........LOVE........YOU
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Etsuko;

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this small pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you .
      (To know about the prize, see my comment to Ronny )
      (To see CREDITS - scroll through)
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    Jan 21 2013: Hug O'War

    I will not play at tug o' war.
    I'd rather play at hug o' war,
    Where everyone hugs
    Instead of tugs,
    Where everyone giggles
    And rolls on the rug,
    Where everyone kisses,
    And everyone grins,
    And everyone cuddles,
    And everyone wins.

    ~ Shel Silverstein
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    Jan 21 2013: There is a lot to learn from a world class language learner like Tim Ferriss.

    He suffered through his language classes in school, and came to the conclusion that he was terrible at languages and will never learn. Later that set him on a “panic driven search for the perfect language method.

    “.... Nothing worked until I found this. This is the Joyo Kanji. This is a Tablet rather, or a poster of the 1,945 common-use characters as determined by the Ministry of Education in 1981. Many of the publications in Japan limit themselves to these characters, to facilitate literacy -- some are required to. And this became my Holy Grail.”

    He mastered Japanese (speaking writing and reading) in six months. And he went on to learn 11 other languages.
    It's oftentimes what you do, not how you do it, that is the determining factor.

    His attitude is “smash fear, learn anything.”

    He also overcame his other fears. He became terrified of swimming because he was bullied and hurt as a child at the pool. He overcame his fear completely, and went on to become a master swimmer after two weeks of studying and learning swimming at age 31.

    His suggestion: especially with fears you gained when you were a child. take the analytical frameworks, the capabilities you have, apply them to old fears. Apply them to very big dreams.

    He does all this by focussing on commonalities.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_ferriss_smash_fear_learn_anything.html
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    Jan 21 2013: Interesting information on human languages and migration:

    According to the Out of Africa hypothesis, around 50,000 years ago a group of humans left Africa and proceeded to inhabit the rest of the world, including Australia and the Americas, which had never been populated by archaic hominids. Some scientists believe that Homo sapiens did not leave Africa before that, because they had not yet attained modern cognition and language, and consequently lacked the skills or the numbers required to migrate.

    Homo erectus managed to leave the continent much earlier (without extensive use of language, sophisticated tools, nor anatomical modernity) while anatomically modern humans remained in Africa for such a long period.

    (from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language)
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    Jan 21 2013: Interesting information on the human language center:
    The human language center is a modification of neural circuits common to all primates. This modification and its skill for linguistic communication seem to be unique to humans, which implies that the language organ derived after the human lineage split from the primate (chimps and bonobos) lineage.

    (from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language)
  • Jan 20 2013: thanks Juliette. it will be an honor...
    i m sorry i just read your letter now.. so busy + the kids are sick :)
    see u
    ronny
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Ronny,

      Busy is good :) especially at your job :)

      Please take good care of all your children (your students and family's) :) They may save us all !!

      Children are our only connection to the source of spontaneous compassion....They trust in us, and we owe them a better world.
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      Jan 21 2013: p.s. please also give my love to Mikha'el :-) and ......all the people who worked/work with you on your project!!
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      Jan 21 2013: p.s. please also give my love to Mikha'el :-) and ......all the people who worked/work with you on your project!!
  • Jan 18 2013: I feel that I am the one who should add the Turkish form of it.

    Simple !

    "Sizi Seviyoruz"

    ("Siz" as "You" but in formal form, "Seviyoruz" as a progressive verb form which means "to love", "-i" as an accusative case, indicates object of the verb)
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      Jan 19 2013: Dear Atalay,

      Welcome and I am glad you came to TED for joining our effort, and from a city that CONNECTS two continents!!
      I will add your contribution to the list for everyone to learn to say 'we love you' in Turkish as:

      "Sizi Seviyoruz"
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Atalay,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this small pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you .
      (To know about the prize, see my comment to Ronny )
      • Jan 21 2013: Thank you for the Zahn Peace Prize !

        I'm glad to have it and I have already accepted, this is such a great idea.

        I'll keep supporting you...
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          Jan 21 2013: :-)
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Atalay,

          I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
  • Jan 17 2013: Hi Juliette,
    Thank you, was an honour to give a hand in such a topic - especially after this really tough day of mine;)

    A did a quick search for your comment to Ronny - i am really sorry, for this silly question, but where is it..?
    Anyway, thank you for your kindness,
    Wish U Happiness,
    Ciao, tamas
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      Jan 17 2013: Thank you Tamas:)
      See it in this thread after his comment entry on date Dec 28, 2012.
      • Jan 20 2013: ohooo :)
        yepp, I found it - till now just because of some mobile device I couldn't.

        Thank you Juliette for the topic, and thanks to everybody for the really lovely contribution.

        ciao,tamas
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Tamas

          I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
  • Jan 12 2013: Juliette,

    The last thread got too long (I cannot reply anymore) so I'll just make a new topic here.

    Well Chinese is probably the same as English in a sense. Just as there are many English words the average person will not use, there are also many Chinese characters that people do not use. Even native speakers do not know all the words; they just learn the common ones that will be used in everyday conversation/writing. That said, it is not uncommon for native Chinese to occasionally forget how to write a particular character (especially the obscure ones) because each character is learned individually and there is no alphabet (as in English) of which to relate to.

    The phonetics we have been using, for instance, would be unheard of to a native speaker because they simply learn how to say the words individually. I know what the phonetics are because I had to learn Mandarin in school, but if you ask me what the phonetics are for Cantonese (a separate dialect of Chinese of which I am a native speaker) I would not be able to tell you because I simply learned from birth what the words sound like. The written language however is all the same regardless of dialect.

    So in regards to your question of how long it takes to learn all the characters, many do not. In fact, bilingual Chinese will often substitute English words in place of their Chinese counterparts merely because it easier to say and less complicated. So it is not uncommon to see Chinese conversations interspersed with the occasional English word to replace a difficult Chinese term.
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      Jan 13 2013: Dear Matthew,

      What a relief to hear that not every character is to be memorized. They seems very complicated and hard to learn. It is like having to carry a gallery of images in ones head :-)

      I am learning that: Chinese is the most used language in the world. The development of Chinese characters can be dated back to about 4,500 years.

      Thank you so much for your patience in explaining a hard concept !! I think it certainly is one of the most beautiful languages:). Beyond the beauty of the written letters and words, I think that pictorial languages might have to come back because of their universal representation.
      • Jan 18 2013: (Replying to your topic about a prize) Why thank you, I certainly did not expect an award :) personally I do not think I did anything extraordinary - there are plenty of other Chinese people who could have explained what I told you - but it is all about taking that first step to say something. And to me that is what is beautiful about Ronny's concept: it is such a small and simple action, yet it has such a great impact and means so much to people who have been told all their lives to hate a certain group of people.

        When I saw your topic it somehow struck a chord with me and I just had to reply to it (hence I made this account). Why? In part it is because there were no Chinese representatives here, but it is also because you represent a different kind of world view that is, honestly, shocking to me. Currently I study Criminology, which revolves around a simple question: why do people commit crime? What drives generally good people to commit atrocities? And how do we stop it?

        No one really knows the answers to these questions. But the trend for stopping crime seems to be more enforcement and more punishment - ie. more police, harsher sentences. There is a reason why few people would willingly open their doors to strangers the way you do. In my view, we have unfortunately become a society where people are increasingly isolated from one another. We lock our doors, tell children not to talk to strangers - in short, we have learned to fear the people we do not know.
      • Jan 18 2013: (Continuing) But it does not have to be that way. You opened your doors to people and (as far as I know) no one tried to take advantage of it. People were appreciative. It makes me think that maybe the way to stop crime is not to punish people, or shut them out of society; rather it is to let them in, form connections with them the way you did. Of course this sounds simple on paper, but it is an enormously difficult concept for people to grasp - especially people who are used to punitive systems, to hating those who are different and building both literal and figurative walls around them.

        I myself had a hard time grasping it when I came across Restorative Justice for the first time (which focuses on rehabilitation for criminals, not punishment). The idea of not punishing a criminal was utterly shocking to me. But it also made me think about why we naturally gravitate towards a punitive system - is it really to deter criminals, or it is just to make the average law-abiding citizen feel better about themselves?

        That's my take on the matter. It is my belief you and Ronny have demonstrated what can happen when people will simply take the first step to reach out to others. Israeli and Palestinians do not have to hate each other; we do not have to be wary of every stranger we meet. I would also like to ask whether you would allow me to include your story in my papers for Restorative Justice; surely many others would want to know about this as well.

        -Matthew
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          Jan 19 2013: Dear Matthew,

          It is most touching to know that you joined TED to participate in this effort. It is especially meaningful to know the depth where yours comes from.

          I hope you will read the rest of the comments also in this thread. Every new year's eve, I silently prayed for world peace. But this year I chose to do it out loud. There is enough goodness in this world for all to share. I am inspired by all peace workers. My motto is ' shed light not blood'. The reason I put my story out here at the dawn of 2013 was to share this idea, so I am hoping that you can use it to shed light on everyone's life you touch.

          As you move on on the road to peace, I send you the following, as parting gift :) and I hope you will hear;

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mM11v_16-o
          http://www.ted.com/talks/israel_and_iran_a_love_story.html
          http://www.ted.com/playlists/22/the_road_to_peace.html
          http://www.ted.com/talks/chris_anderson_how_web_video_powers_global_innovation.html

          and use all these in your life and work.
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Matthew,
          I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
  • Jan 12 2013: I suppose you missed one language here lol
    Korean: 사랑합니다.

    But in that case, this word would be more appropriate, I guess--> 환영합니다.

    What a beautiful childhood you have...!

    I wish I could do the same thing to strangers who wander on the street, but I have to say, at least for me, it's almost not really possible.

    Needless to say, so many crimes and dreadful stories leave me no choice but to keep my eyes open to keep my house safe from strangers...


    But by no means, this kind of protectiveness should be the main obstacle that prevents us from welcoming people with all our hearts.

    I was told that my grandparents had used to welcome strangers and provide them with food and shelter just like your parents.

    Actually, in their time, people were quite naïve and very kind compared to us, who live in this more modernized world.

    This trace of people’s warm-hearted behavior is now some kind of nostalgia to us.
    Although the way people used to treat other people would be different now, the spirit of it is still alive as you plainly show us ‘the list’.

    Juliette, 사랑합니다 :)
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      Jan 12 2013: Dear Elizabeth;

      Thank you so much!! It is nice to see you here!! I think I am missing many languages still :-)I read somewhere that there are more than 4500 languages in the world...I am guessing that more than half are dialects of the same languages.

      I agree with what you said about the relative naïveté and kindness of the past generations. And I agree that it would be great to bring back that kind of trust to our world again. Thieves existed since the beginning of time and they are still the lowest form of humans. They are very few. Maybe in today's world, hosting, like for exchange students, would help improve our understanding.

      I love the Korean alphabet. The writing looks like pictures!! Would you be able to write the Korean for us in English letters so we could read it and try to learn that way?
      • Jan 12 2013: Sure :)

        사랑합니다 --> Sa Lang Hab Ni Da
        환영합니다 --> Hoan Yeong Hab Ni Da
        Korean alphabets were created to make people understand the way they pronounce letters.
        It might sound weird to foreigners lol, but once you understand the principle, you'd realize
        they are quite easy to pronounce.

        But however different it may be, each different language has its unique meaning,
        and when you notice they have many things in common, such as "we love you", you'd feel this
        fundamental connection that human beings are able to sense.

        It's incredible that we have "languages" to express our delicate thoughts and feelings.
        We should be grateful, right?
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          Jan 13 2013: Dear Elizabeth,

          Thankfully, today we have so many tools that can be used to build understanding, so I hope we must use every one.
          I have posted your entry is on list 27. Please let me know if I need to make any adjustments.
          Thank you!! 감사합니다:)
          After pasting this from Google, I just noticed that the last three characters (합니다) look similar to the two words you gave me!!
      • Jan 13 2013: Yes, '합니다' is the honorific in Korea.
        Btw, you said, "Hoan Yeong Sa Lang Hab Ni Da"

        Actually, it's "Hoan Yeong Hago Sa Lang Hab Ni Da"

        "환영(합니다)Hoan Yeong " means, "(I or We) welcome (you)."
        And "사랑(합니다)Sa Lang" means, "(I or We) love (you)." –Subject and object are omitted.
        Both of them are verbs, so they cannot be put together.

        For instance, we can't say, "I welcome love you." in English, right?
        'Cause when we want to use two verbs together at the same time, we need to use conjunctions like "and".

        That's why I added "하고Hago" above.

        Thank you for your list. It makes me smile :)
        Hoan Yeong Hago Sa Lang Hab Ni Da, Juliette :D
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          Jan 13 2013: :) Thank you.
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          Jan 17 2013: Dear Elizabeth,

          I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

          Thank you.
          ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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    Jan 12 2013: Arabic : Nouhiboukoum نحبكم
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      Jan 12 2013: Hello, and welcome!!

      Would you write that out and tell us which part is we , which is love, Which is you ( plural )?
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        Jan 12 2013: Hi Juliette,
        The verb "love" in arabic is " Ouhibou ", the " N " stands for "nahnou" which means "we" or "us" so it's for plural, "koum" is to say "you" in plural.
        "I love you"
        for masculine singular is : "ouhibouka"
        for feminine singular is : "ouhibouki"
        for masculine plural : "ouhiboukoum"
        for feminine plural : "ouhiboukounna"

        To say "we love you", we add "N" at the beginning of each of the words above.
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          Jan 12 2013: Hi Abdelbari,
          That is very helpful. I am able to see the word ending changes according to the person we are speaking to. It is starting to make sense. I am thankful. I also want you to know, on a side note, that I love your avatar.......now you can never change it - because of me ;-)

          Thank you!!
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        Jan 14 2013: Hi Juliette,
        I hope it's not copyrighted, because I won't change it, because of you :D
        I think read something about " you and your husband ..... " I read it but had nor time to reply, if you're still interested :
        Actually, in arabic, we can talk to Two people without using plural, the plural starts from 3 people and more. So if you want to say I love you to your two children (no matter the gender), you say " Ouhiboukouma ", if you and you husband want to say it at the same time :we love you, you say " Nouhiboukouma".
        I hope this helps. And you are so welcome :)
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        Jan 14 2013: I don't know why you have put " Nouhiboukouma " on the list ! you say that when you're talking to two people, only two ! I don't know if you got it right :)

        LOL, this was funny, thanks :D And yes, it's true, I think that we are obsessed about cheeks lol
        Actually I'm from Algeria which has different traditions from the Middle Eastern countries as we're not arabs, or we weren't ......... History ! but we do share the " Cheeks Obsession ". Mostly, we kiss two times or four on the cheek while greeting someone we haven't seen for a while and this depends on the person, some people you need to cheek kiss them once you don't meet for few days or a week, some you never kiss them, you just hand shake, but we have some occasion where everybody kisses everyone, like in the two "Eids", they're like your christmass maybe, any way; we don't really kiss on the cheek, we just put the cheek on the cheek, when it comes to women we kiss generally ( but not all women ! women from family and they're specific, like mother, aunt, sister and so ... ). Personally I have a friend who cheek kisses me and tight-hug me every day he sees me, sometimes he forgets he saw me earlier that day, so I receive another Kisses and Hugs XD
        Do you like our traditions Juliette ? :p
        Sorry, I talk a lot, and this is not a tradition lol.
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          Jan 14 2013: Hi Abdelbari,

          I do like your traditions. AND I am happy you break tradition and talk a lot......how else would we ever learn about each other!!

          I am sorry if I misunderstood. You wrote " if you and you husband want to say it (to son and daughter) at the same time : we love you, you say 'Nouhiboukouma' ...."

          Please tell me the right one to put on the list:)
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        Jan 16 2013: Hi Jul,
        I think the right thing to say depends on who you are talking to, in your idea you said you want to say "we love you" to people who come to your home and i suggest they're a lot so you say " Nouhiboukoum ". I guess this the right thing, I thought you really have a son and a daughter :)

        When I see Maz I will tell him about the copyrights and ask him if he wants to use them, with MONEY of course :p Quick Money for us :D

        PS : I liked you first reply better, you edit a lot XD
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          Jan 17 2013: Hi Abdelbari,

          YOU are our QM-agent.......as of now:-)
          I liked my first reply better too ......I'll see if I can find it and put it back.....glad you received it.....i edit my comment when I feel I have made myself misunderstood..........and when no one seems to find it 'helpful' or 'worthwhile' , I delete it to keep the TED roads 'unlittered' :-)

          Also Do you speak French? Not that I have gotten very far with my phrase in Arabic....but if yes please enter the phrase in French also...........while I disentangle my left brain from it's language confusion :)
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        Jan 17 2013: Do i speak french ? I only studied it for 9 years in school, after that I studied everything in the university in French for 4 years, and this is sad :( how our governmental responsibles replaced our beautiful language with another one to use in Universities !

        Anyway, get back to work;
        In french you can say " We love you " using two forms
        1. Nous vous aimons. ( nous = we / vous = you (plural) / aimons = the verb " aimer" (to love) in present simple ).

        2. On vous aime. ( on = Pronoun of the third person " il " (he).

        The first form is more precise because " Nous " means exactly " we " and represents exactly the persons who are talking, in your case you and your family.
        The second form is kind of more general, the pronoun " On " is used to indicate one or lot of indefinite persons, it's used in the place of "Nous " and in other places.

        I think you can put " Nous vous aimons " on your list.

        Hope you disentangle yourself from your language confusion quickly :)
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          Jan 17 2013: Dear Abdelbari,

          I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

          Thank you.
          ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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        Jan 18 2013: Aw :) Haven't received a prize a long time ago ^^ and I accept it of course Juliette.

        PS: I can't find any comments from Ronny, the date you specified up in your reply to someone else doesn't even exist, but never mind, the nomination is the most important thing to me ;)

        Thank you, much APPRECIATED.
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          Jan 18 2013: See
          Ronny Edry
          TED SPEAKER
          Dec 27 2012: we love you, in hebrew
          אנחנו אוהבים אתכם
          pronounced: anahnou (we) , ohavim (love,) ot-hem (you)

          ronny edry (fb: israel-loves-iran)
          from israel

          You can find Ronny's comments in this conversation stream. When you scroll through check for the dates of postings. They are not chronological.
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        Jan 19 2013: a heart-felt recognition ? That's just nice because you seem to an honest person and I can feel that you mean it and this brings more meaning to the prize :)

        Do you think that this world will know peace one day ? I am not being pessimist, but with all this greed in the world it just seems to be a very hard cause and a long journey, but we have to try anyway.

        Some people would not start an idea like this, thinking that this is not going to change anything and this reminded me a story that I want to share with you :

        " One day, says the legend, there was a huge forest fire. From all the terrified animals, only the little Hummingbird makes an action, and splits on the fire. Annoyed, the Armadillo says to him :
        " Hummingbird ! this is useless ! "
        "I know, but I do my part ".


        You keep on the good work Jul ;) and Thanks again.
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          Jan 19 2013: Dear Abdelbari,

          Thank you for this great reminder.

          To answer your question:
          "Do you think that this world will know peace one day?" YES:)

          All peace in the world comes from the inner peace of human minds. Each person is in charge of their own mind. We each are responsible for our inner peace. Once we realize that, and each make peace within our selves, then peace will be seen outside of us in the world. Peace is what we are here for, what we became 'human' for.....otherwise there are enough animals, our species wouldn’t be an improvement.

          Peace happens when we confirm inside our own mind, our trust in the greater intention of this universe for our well being. Knowing that we are loved, allows us to be good, to be fair, to be helpful, constructive, and not buy into hate. We resolve inside ourselves that we are here to honor that love, then the human life will work.

          Peace is a personal commitment to honor the greatest good.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mM11v_16-o

          http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2004/

          I think the time has come for all in the world to grasp this knowledge about themselves... Like Ronny has shown, it is easy... Chris turns his 'Big Wheel'..TED.

          SOON the business world will see that peace is much more profitable than war!!
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Abdelbari,
          I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
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          Jan 21 2013: Dear Abdelbari,

          Editing is important here because we are doing our best to produce a 'neat' and chatter-free general education piece with our collective effort.

          I can only edit or delete my own comments. You can edit and delete your comment ( entirely or parts). I wrote you directly for one reason. I never do that. This is an extremely rare thing for me to do with anyone except my students who pay a lot of tuition for my 'direct-to-your-face criticism'. I did this with you because you because I care, and because you are very special, to have made it this far. There is a lot of brilliance in you, then there is no need to carry doubt and interject doubt. We can be good and only good. This is not meant to cause arrogance in you. When you truly grasp your essence you will be humble. We can move forward that way. I actually liked this exchange, so I will leave this comment as is.

          Maybe I should start another session about couple's love advice ;-)
          Anyway I am pretty sure I wrote my solution for your dilemma on your question thread for you :-). Love is "bilaterally symmetrical " for it to move you forward it has to be mutually reciprocal. Be patient. Save your heart and soul for that person.
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        Jan 21 2013: Hi Juli,

        I wish I met you earlier :)

        " When you truly grasp your essence you will be humble ", This is exactly what I'm looking for and haven't found it yet, grasp my essence. To Be Honest, I don't know how or from where to start this, don't know if I'll find it and reach it than, I know I can seek help from others, read books or so, but there one thing that I'm sure of, I must do it by my own and find it by myself, some say this is the quest of our life !

        I don't think this a couple's love problem, this concerns me, and only me Juliette, Usually I never talk about this to anyone, even for my closest friends whom I really trust, a girl I love is classified under "Top Secret" for me, may sound stupid for some, but I don't care, this is the first girl I ever approached, I was 21 (last year). So I can tell and assure you that you are special and I felt comfortable talking to you, that's why I asked you.

        Thanks again Juliette, take care. good night :) ( it's 22:20 here )

        PS: Your students are very lucky to have you.
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          Jan 21 2013: Oop...now I see I should have suggested that you edit your previous comments and not delete it. When a comment is deleted it cuts the thread :-( but no worries the peace bridge is intact. I actually thought your last comment was one of your most valuable contributions, because it was pure and came from the heart. It was beautiful because you expressed that you had found yourself confronted with a "to your face critique"..which you had never experienced before.Yet you came around and responded from the heart.that kind of interaction was exactly what we need here.

          In the future, you can go back and modify and remove the parts of your writing using the edit button, but please do not delete your comment, I somehow thought my actions had shown this and assumed you would know. Lesson : No assumptions again. This is a worthwhile lesson to share; ~~ lets go back and edit, but never delete ~~ :-)
  • Jan 10 2013: Your new list does not include Chinese? That will not do, I will help :)

    Well it is actually very simple. "Wo Ai Ni" literally means "I Love You", in that Wo = Me, Ai = Love, Ni = You

    There is no direct word which means "we" in Chinese, so if you want to refer to a collective you would use "Wo Men", whereupon Wo = Me (as before) and "Men" serves to pluralize the "Wo". So "Wo Men" = pluralized "Me" = "We"

    In other words, to say "we love you" in Chinese would be "Wo Men Ai Ni". If you're curious the word "Men" is synonymous with the Chinese word for door (sounds the same but written slightly differently) which is fitting given you're opening the door to people who need it, so to speak.

    As a side note, if you want to be polite when referring to someone you can replace "ni" with "nin", which is a polite version of "you" that can be used when talking to strangers, or just to show respect (although not used very often nowadays). So "Wo Ai Nin" or "Wo Men Ai Nin" is also perfectly acceptable. When written out "Nin" is the same as "ni" except with a heart (Chinese word for heart) under it, again as a show of respect.

    Hope this makes sense. I firmly believe language connects people so I think it is really neat you're trying to learn the languages of other people. Plus I think this shows love is universal! It exists in all languages :)
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      Jan 11 2013: Hi Matthew, and Welcome, I am so glad you joined us!!

      Your nice explanation is very helpful in understanding a tiny portion of a complex language. I know that just knowing a phrase, or being able to say it doesn't give us the necessary cultural knowledge about it, but since love is truly universal, this is a great starting point.

      Chinese characters are so beautiful that I almost want to ask you to send them also. Not even sure they would make it across, software wise. But for the sake of our list, I think it'd be a thrill for everyone to be able to read the phrase, so we'll put in the English version for phonetics:

      (Wo Men) .......(Ai)..........(Nin)
      WE...................love..........You ( plural and polite)
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      Jan 11 2013: Dear Matthew, I received an email from TED with your posting but I can't see it on this page. If you don't see it either, please re-post it here. Thank you:)
      • Jan 11 2013: Yeah I did reply, thing is it only showed the first half of my post and cut out the rest...since it was late at night and I did not want to rewrite it, I deleted the whole thing and figured to post it again this morning.

        Anyway~ Chinese is a largely pictorial language, so yes the characters will make much more sense when it is seen. The phonetics actually have nothing to do with Chinese; those were added in later to make it easier for non-native speakers to learn the language, and native speakers (myself included) will often know how to say words without knowing what the phonetics for a word is. The official term for Chinese phonetics (using English characters) is actually 拼音or "pinyin", which means roughly "to match sounds".

        我們愛你 = "wo men ai ni"
        我們愛您 = "wo men ai nin"

        You'll notice that for the 你 and 您 ("ni" and "nin") they are both the same except that 您 has a 心at the bottom. 心is "xin" and means heart; when combined with 你 it makes the greeting more "heartfelt" and polite.

        Likewise the word for love in Chinese is 愛 ("ai") and also has a 心 in it (it is hard to see on here, but look at the middle of 愛). Literally in Chinese you cannot love without a heart.

        I used Google Translate to input these characters, so if they show up small on here you can also see a larger version on Google. Make sure to specify you want "traditional" Chinese characters ("simplified" Chinese reduces the number of strokes for some words to make it easier to learn) or the characters will look different from the ones I am using.
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          Jan 12 2013: Dear Matthew, Your explanation is so helpful that I am glad you returned with more energy:-)

          I did look at the characters in larger scale and am able to see the part of the characters that means 'heart'. If you hadn't walked me through, I would not in a million years see that. Which brings the question to my mind: how long does it take a native to learn all these characters?!!
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          Jan 17 2013: Dear Matthew,

          I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

          Thank you.
          ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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    Jan 9 2013: You're absolutely correct about spiritual aspect of the Hawaiian language. However I believe that is also true of most indigenous languages. As a conservationist in Hawaii I cannot separate the Hawaiian culture from my conservation ethic. Before contact with Europeans, the Hawaiians had a very resilient and self-sufficient society. The population is estimated at about 1 million people. That's only slightly less than the current population of the state of Hawaii. Hawaiians were totally self-sufficient while in Hawaii today we import 95% of our food and all fuel. We have less than five days food supply on our islands and are totally dependent on our transportation system.

    My personal conservation philosophy is based on personal, community and global resilience. I have spent my life and my career caring for the land. Hawaiians call it Malama 'Āina. It is not enough to care for my small corner of the earth. It must start with personal resilience. Then if everyone takes care of their community, we can address the major issues facing our planet.

    It starts with personal resilience. Life long learning is vital to being able to respond to opportunities. Financial resilience makes it possible to bounce back from adversity. How many people do you know who can survive two months without a pay check?

    I help people set up aquaponics gardens. Our 4x6 foot garden supplies my family with a delicious salad every evening. I reach out to my community to help people be prepared for our next big storm. I help people create their own business that can provide them financial independence.

    The rugged individualist, so revered in American culture, is fine. I certainly believe in personal freedom and taking care of ones self. But, I also know the individual is limited by the time they can devote to a project. We can only reach our full potential by networking with others to accomplish our common goals.
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      Jan 11 2013: I put " Aloha kākou " on the list for Hawaiian.

      " Malama 'Āina" sounds like paradise work. Going to natural preservations is the best form of vacation, for my family. And in moderating my topic here, people have kindly brought so much understanding. I have gotten to see pictures of the mother planet and a diverse beauty I never knew existed. One of the other treasures of my childhood was a book of natural history that fascinated us with how nature had grown its balance, showing a single flower had started and evolved 50 million years ago! We appreciate those who have worked to conserve nature, all its plants and creatures. Every creature has its rightful place in the world. It is amazing how reduction in the number of "natures engineers" (beavers) for example, would end up affecting the irrigation system of a whole land, derailing the future of the planet and negatively affecting humanity. It is sad to read that " In Hawaii today we import 95% of our food and all fuel " and I think that disrupting the " total self-sufficiency" of a civilization was the way of the past century. In this century the turn around is visible. Different cultures are infused with growing understanding and respect.Thankfully.

      The idea of every home producing its own food, is a great one worthy of a TED talk. May be you could show it to the world from here someday.
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      Jan 9 2013: Hi Kate, Welcome!! It is ever more wonderful to see you here since we speak the same language!! Thank you for your touching words. My parents " hospitality project " can be done by anyone. The main part of the concept was that they thought of it as a give and take on a more valuable dimension than money could buy. I feel it develops creative thinking, which is why they had so much fun doing it..and it was more enriching for an environment to grow up in than anything else!
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear Kate,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      (To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny)
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Kate,

      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
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    Jan 9 2013: Wau translates as I. La is there. Oe' is not in the dictionary. oe means a prolonged sound as in a whistle. 'oe means to resemble. "oē means to rustle or murmur as in the wind murmuring in the trees.

    bottom line. Aloha Wau La Oe' does not make sense to me, but Iʻm only going by the dictionary.

    Aloha does not have have any punctuation. No macrons or glottal stops although you often entertainers urge tourists to pronounce it Alōha with the o drawn out and exaggerated. It drives me nuts.

    Your folks sound like wonderful people and a lot of that rubbed off on you. Drop me an email note at bsager42@gmail.com. As you said, it was just luck you found my comment. Iʻm afraid you will get lost in Ted again. Bill
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      Jan 9 2013: Hi Bill,

      I am glad you looked up the original Hawaiian phrase. Obviously there are so much more expression than words could contain or carry. The Hawaiian language sounds profound as does the culture. There seems to be a closely woven spiritual aspect to the language itself.
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    Jan 9 2013: I think Māhele Hōkeo refers to the bond of love between two people. Iʻm not sure, but I donʻt think marriage became an Hawaiian concept until after the missionaries arrived.

    The Hawaiian language peels like an onion. At the surface it may have one meaning while deeper down the meaning may be totally different. Hawaiians seem to love a pun and take pride in saying one thing to a person who has a superficial knowledge of the language while a fluent person will understand the true intent of what is being said.

    Aloha kākou means may there be love between us and is the plural expression of Aloha kāua which is the singular expression of friendship or love. This is straight out of the Hawaiian dictionary so I know it is correct.


    Aloha kākou is the expression of friendship or love extended to a group.

    You are absolutely correct about understanding the culture. i think that may be more true of Hawaiian than any other language I know of. That is very true of hula. Many people understand the motion and may even be able to mouth the words, but Kumu Hula teach the cultural meaning of the words and the motions. To be a hula master you must understand the language and the culture.
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear William,
      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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    Jan 9 2013: Hawaiian is a very complex language with many words and phrases having multiple meanings. There are often many ways to say something with slightly different meanings. For instance Aloha is often used to say hello and goodbye. How ever it is also an expression of love shared and at a deeper level it is the sharing of the breath of life, or the sharing of ones spirit. I like the expression Hōkeo which means to be in a bond of love. Māhele means to share, As in Māhele hōkeo. I notice you have a Hawaiian translation and I certainly would not argue with that.

    Iʻm not a Hawaiian speaker, but I have a good Hawaiian Dictionary
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      Jan 9 2013: Greetings Bill, Or I could say Aloha! ( since that is the one word I know ;-) So wonderful to see you here!

      I can never be sure but I thought that 'Aloha Wau La Oe' was a singular format, in other words a 1 to 1 saying. And we are looking for a 2 to 2 , or a 10 to 10 format that would be applicable from one group to another group.

      I feel that getting to really understand any language which is not our own birth tongue, requires a rather deep knowledge of the culture behind the language, hard to accumulate in one life time!! And of course Hawaiian, appears far from anything I am familiar with. But the complexity is intriguing. and makes learning a worthwhile adventure, for me anyway:-)

      Would ' Māhele Hōkeo ' apply to the plural?!
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Bill,

      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration. Be well :)
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    Jan 6 2013: In FILIPINO (when referring to the national language, FILIPINO also pertains to the race/people) or Tagalog (one of the 171 local dialects. in a country composed of 7,100 islands) which happens to have been designated as the National Language of the Philippines: Filipino/Tagalog are therefore interchangeable.

    I LOVE YOU = Mahal kita (love you) a longer version is IKAW AY MAHAL KO [ Ikaw (you), ay (be or just a conjunction), mahal (love) ko (I)]

    WE LOVE YOU = Mahal namin kayo (Mahal is love, namin (we/us) is plural, and kayo (you) is plural but can also be singular when used to show a sign of respect to an older person usually.

    Its great that your parents brought that tradition of 'hospitality adventure' into your home!
    Warm regards,
    Mari
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      Jan 6 2013: Dear Mari;
      Thank you for your wonderful teaching. I sometimes wonder how many languages there would be in the world if we counted all dialects...Meanwhile...I am still trying to get my head around 7100 islands :-)

      Mahal.......namin.......kayo
      LOVE........WE.........YOU
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear Mari,
      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Mari,

      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration.
      Be well :)
  • Jan 5 2013: Hi Juliette, the answers are:

    1 to 1 = (yo) te amo
    1 to 2 = (yo) los amo
    2 to 1 = (nosotros) te amamos
    2 to 2 = (nosotros) los amamos
    2 to 10 = (nosotros) los amamos

    Normally in spanish you do not mention yourself in singular or plural.
    It is more frecuent between friends or couple members to say "te quiero" or "los quiero".
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      Jan 6 2013: Spanish (español), also called Castilian, is a Romance language that originated in Castile, a region in Spain.

      Spanish is a part of the Ibero-Romance group that evolved from several dialects of spoken Latin in central-northern Iberia around the ninth century and gradually spread with the expansion of the Kingdom of Castile (present northern Spain) into central and southern Iberia during the later Middle Ages.

      The Iberian Romance languages or Ibero-Romance languages are the Romance languages that developed on the Iberian Peninsula, an area consisting primarily of Spain, Portugal, and Andorra.

      There are approximately 405 million people speaking Spanish as a native language, making it the second-most-spoken language by number of native speakers after Mandarin.

      Spanish is one of the six official languages of the United Nations ( the other five are English, French, Chinese,Russian, and Arabic)

      Spanish is used as an official language by the European Union and Mercosur (Common Market formed by Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela and Bolivia)

      Spanish : Los amamos will go on the list. I don't know why.. but somehow, to my new ear, " los quiero " sounds like it has a different tone to it ?!

      ~ Thank you!!
  • Jan 5 2013: Dear Juliette, your parents could say:
    Español: nosotros te amamos
    Or simply: te amamos
    Have a nice day.
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      Jan 5 2013: Hi César, Thank you. We have a question :

      Is there a difference in Spanish if we are speaking to one person or to 2 or more people?

      I love you =
      1 to 1

      I love you =
      1 to 2

      We love you =
      2 to 1

      We love you =
      2 to 2

      We love you =
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      Jan 17 2013: Dear César,

      I hope you accept the Zahn Peace Prize for your participation in this idea, for co-authoring this pathway with me and for your contributions in 'building peace on time'.

      Thank you.
      ( To know about the prize see my comment to Ronny )
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    Jan 2 2013: Happy New Year everyone!!

    Here is my favorite way of starting a new day.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/louie_schwartzberg_nature_beauty_gratitude.html

    Have a good day today :-)
  • Dec 29 2012: Got another - this time from North America!

    Greenlandic: Asavatsigit

    Best regards,
    Nikolaj
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      Dec 30 2012: Greenland is the third largest country in North America !!

      In prehistoric times, Greenland was home to several successive Paleo-Eskimo cultures.

      And has the longest fjord in the world.

      A fjord is a long, narrow inlet with steep sides or cliffs, created in a valley carved by glacial activity. The word in many cases refers to any long narrow body of water. A fjord is formed when a glacier cuts a U-shaped valley. A fjord has extreme currents and large saltwater rapids (see skookumchuck). Saltstraumen in Norway is often described as the world's strongest tidal current. These characteristics distinguish fjords from rias (e.g. the Bay of Kotor), which are drowned valleys flooded by the rising sea.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greenland2.1ac.jpg
      I do have a hard time believing is http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiddi/4040357702/
      I may have to see it :-))

      Greenlandic: Asavatsigit
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      Jan 9 2013: Hi Nikolaj,

      In my childhood knowledge there were people known as "Eskimo". It was extremely fascinating for us as children to know there were people who lived in houses made of ice or a ground made of ice.

      So far I have learned the following:

      "The earliest known Eskimo cultures (pre-Dorset) date to 5,000 years ago.

      They appear to have evolved in Alaska from people using the Arctic small tool tradition who probably had migrated to Alaska from Siberia at least 2,000 to 3,000 years earlier, though they might have been in Alaska as far back as 10,000 to 12,000 years or more. There are similar artifacts found in Siberia going back perhaps 18,000 years.

      Today, the two main groups of Eskimos are the Inuit of northern Alaska, Canada and Greenland, and the Yupik of Central Alaska.

      The Yupik comprises speakers of four distinct Yupik languages originated from the western Alaska, in South Central Alaska along the Gulf of Alaska coast, and the Russian Far East.

      The term Eskimo is commonly used by those in the lower 48 (states of the USA) and in Alaska to include both Yupik and Inupiat. No universal term other than Eskimo, inclusive of all Inuit and Yupik people, exists for the Inuit and Yupik peoples.

      And most importantly perhaps that the word "Eskimo" is no longer used!!

      "In Canada and Greenland, the term Eskimo has fallen out of favour, as it is sometimes considered pejorative and has been replaced by the term Inuit. The Canadian Constitution Act of 1982, sections 25 and 35 recognized the Inuit as a distinctive group of aboriginal peoples in Canada." (This is from Wikipedia)

      I am trying to learn a little about the Greenlandic people....because however they are named, I still find them fascinating. Many questions but: How do they cope with having a constant a 24-hour sunlight??
      How do they cope with having a constant a 24-hour darkness??
  • Dec 29 2012: I'm running out of online immigrants to stalk, but here is one more:

    Faroese: Vit elska tykkum

    Clicky clicky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroese_language

    :)

    The Faroe Islands are a part of Denmark with their own "home rule". And language, obviously. It is kind of close to Icelandic.

    Best regards,
    Nikolaj
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      Dec 30 2012: It is amazing to learn that Faroese is of Indo-European Origin.

      The Faroese alphabet consists of 29 letters derived from the Latin alphabet. It belongs to the following language family:

      Indo-European Languages > Germanic Languages > North Germanic Languages > West Scandinavian Languages > Faroese

      Faroese and Icelandic, its closest extant relative, are not mutually intelligible in speech, but the written languages resemble each other quite closely.

      Listening to it, I sense a slight Irish flavor also!!

      After taking a virtual trip to Faroe Islands I learned a lot......

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Faroe_islands_map_with_island_names.png
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTj26z1KYV8

      Despite the dim light I was inspired for my next painting ( this happens after actual trips - usually)!!
      and I dreamt of puffins on gassy hills last night:-)

      Faroese: Vit elska tykkum
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      Jan 21 2013: Dear Nikolaj,

      I hope you will have a chance to read through all the entries to our thread and find them helpful in your general approach. Also see CREDITS. Soon this session will be closed. Thank you again for your collaboration.
      Be well :)
  • Dec 27 2012: A few from the Balkans:

    Bosnian: Mi vas volimo
    Croatian: Mi vas volimo (jup, same as the Bosnian)
    Serbian: Ми вас волимо (actually it is the exact same as the Bosnian and Croatian versions - they just use the Cyrillic alphabet instead)
    Macedonian: Ве сакаме ("Ve sakame" if written in the Latin alphabet, however the Cyrillic alphabet is the one officially used in Macedonia). Google translate says it is "vi elsker dig" (singular) and not "vi elsker jer" (plural). However my Bosnian translator-friend says it is correct.

    A few from Eastern Europe:
    Polish: Kochamy was
    Russian: Мы вас любим (Latin: My vas lyubim)
    Bulgarian: Обичаме ви (Latin: Obichame vi)

    And two more from here in Scandinavia (Swedish, Danish and Norwegian are familiar languages):
    Swedish: Vi älskar er
    Norwegian: Vi elsker dere

    I'll see if I can fetch some more.

    Best regards,
    Nikolaj
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      Dec 27 2012: How enriching !!

      First we are learning the word Balkan :

      The word "Balkan" means mountain ( in Turkish) and has been applied to the area since the early 19th century. The chain of mountains called "Balkan"; Normally considered as naturel frontiers of the Balkans are the rivers Donau and Sava in the North, the Black Sea in the East, the Aegean Sea in the South and the Adriatic Sea in the West.

      Balkan Countries are located in South-East Europe:

      Slovenia
      Croatia
      Bosnia-Hercegovina
      Montenegro
      Serbia
      Romenia
      Bulgaria
      Macedonia
      Albania
      Greece
      Part of Turkey
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      Dec 27 2012: Cyrillic is one of the most used writing systems in the world.

      Ми вас волимо

      The Cyrillic script or azbuka is an alphabetic writing system. It is based on the Early Cyrillic, which was developed in the First Bulgarian Empire during the 10th century AD at the Preslav Literary School. It is the basis of alphabets used in various languages, past and present, in parts of the Balkans and Northern Eurasia, especially those of Slavic origin, and non-Slavic languages influenced by Russian. As of 2011 around 252 million people in Europe and Asia use it as the official alphabet for their national languages. About half of them are in Russia.

      ( from .wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script )
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      Dec 27 2012: We learn about Macedonia and Macedonian:

      Macedonia - The republic of Makedonia is a country located in the central Balkan peninsula in Southeast Europe. It is one of the successor states of the former Yugoslavia, from which it declared independence in 1991.

      Makedonia has five immediate neighbors :

      Serbia (North)
      Kosovo ( Northwest)
      Bulgaria (East)
      Albania (west)
      Greece (South)


      I must say that I wish they had used "K" not 'C" for us in school - then we would have already learned to pronounce Makedonia correctly.

      Now we know :-) and

      We love Makedonija !!
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      Dec 27 2012: Nikolaj du gør dette en fantastisk oplevelse med dine super bidrag. Vi har fået det bedre selv, mens vi lider alvorlig sne afsavn her :-) :-) Hvis jeg glemmer at sige det senere, tak så meget! Vi har seksten sætninger nu !!