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Morgan Barnes

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.

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Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Dec 22 2012: On the one hand, it was strange to see an Australian asking this question, considering how angry many Australians seem to be about the confiscation of guns in Australia: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=australian+gun+confiscation

    On the other hand, it is no surprise that a Law Enforcement Officer is asking this question. I somehow get the impressions that law enforcement officials want to be the only folks around with all the "power" to use and abuse as they please. Case in point: the US war on drugs, and how many people (especially darker skinned folks) are give the thrash-first-ask-questions-later treatment. Please do bring out statistics of how many lost their lives to the police for victimless 'crimes' and how many lost their lives to insane people on rampages.

    Morgan, you have interpreted the rationale for the second amendment wrongly. Its was NOT 'originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State"'. Refer to the citation notes [1] and [2] of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution.

    I did not invent firearms, and I do not manufacture them either. However, guns do not kill people; people kill people.

    I'm all for background checks of those who buy guns, and they have to have undergone proper training to ensure that they know how to be responsible around it, just like we're trained before we get a license to take our cars on public roads. Otherwise, even the well-meaning gun carrier would be endangering the lives of others.
    • Jan 14 2013: The phrase 'guns don't kill people, people kill people' is starting to wear out. Guns are weapons and are meant to harm, injure and/or kill. That was the whole purpose of making these devices. They weren't manufacturered to sit on the chair and appear innocent. They are far from innocent.

      If this statemt is to imply that gun can sit there but without action it will not harm or kill someone - agreed.

      But I can say that about a lot of devices/tools. The simple matter of fact is, when used by a person, the gun can and will kill other people.

      (sorry off topic)
      • Jan 14 2013: @Frankendoe:
        I used that expression only because the conversation starter, Morgan Barnes, dismissed it offhand.

        I have explained scenarios (somewhere in this discussion) as to how guns can be used either for offense or for defense without a single shot being fired.
        • Jan 14 2013: Fair enough.

          If only the guns could be used more with the safety on... .. I guess we'd be debating something else.

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