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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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    Jan 13 2013: .
    The NRA's position on guns is as follows...

    Higher gun violence rate = Buy more guns to protect yourself
    Lower violence rate = You could still become a statistic so buy more guns
    No change in violence rate = Lets fix that, buy more guns

    Certain guns may be made illegal = Buy as many as you can now to stock up
    Illegal sale of a gun is overturned = They're back! Buy guns to celebrate!
    The subject of guns comes up in politics = Be worried, buy more guns!

    Buy guns for your collection
    Buy guns for defence
    Buy guns for hunting
    Buy guns for training
    Buy guns and be a patriot
    Buy guns and be an American..
    Everyone buy as many guns as you can for no matter what reason
    Everyone buy guns no matter who you are
    Everyone buy guns and allow no limitations

    It seems to me that the Americans are being duped into thinking that endless-gun-freedom equates to liberty, when in actuality it appears to be nothing more than a scam by people who work for the gun manufacturing industry..

    We all know that the Teaparty are unknowingly doing large corporations biddings with their
    'zero tax+zero regulation = liberty' chants,
    so how does no one see this situation with the
    'more guns for all = more liberty'
    situation we have here?..
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      Jan 13 2013: Xavier, "It may seem to you Americans are being duped", but you are wrong. No one thinks endless guns is the equivalent of liberty. The right to bear arms is a part of the foundation that ensures our liberty.
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          Jan 13 2013: freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.

          freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.

          freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
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        Jan 13 2013: 'It may seem to you Americans are being duped, but you are wrong'

        A group who originally focused almost entirely on adequate gun control start receiving large amounts of money from Gun manufacturers and now want as many guns to be sold as possible for any reason and to absolutely anyone who wants them without restriction..
        Odds are on my favor here..
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          Jan 13 2013: The gun owners I know all have brains of their own and do not wait for the NRA to tell them what to do next.
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          Jan 13 2013: What Kate? Where have I been quite defensive and what are you talking about? Do what in your own head?

          Full of fear? Where is this coming from?
        • Jan 14 2013: @Kate Blake:
          I too have stayed in India for a while. These are my thoughts and observations:

          Indians don't understand the idea of freedom. The police are pretty much lawless too. Most of the cities have a daily curfew at 23:30. The police make rounds to make sure shops are closed. Indians in northern parts of India have made living with dangerous people a part of their lives. Most girls don't venture out on their own after dark ~ 18:30. So, no, most Indians don't own guns, but then they don't expect to live their days like we, in the west, do.

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