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Morgan Barnes

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.

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Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 13 2013: Guns don't kill people.
    But please, answer this question for me.

    What if we repealed the gun laws or as you suggest, the Second Amendment,
    and later, after virtually all weapons had been confiscated from the citizens by the authorities, you and all your fellow Australians found out that the authorities had been behind these "random" killings and shootings solely for the purpose of getting your guns away from you?
    What if you found out that they had been lying all the time? What would you do then?

    Because so far, that is the only time you would find it out.
    We know in America that our "authorities" parade themselves as the truth rather than living by the truth as the authority.
    We know they have been lying to us/US for decades, President after President, Cabinet after Cabinet. (among others)
    We know they would like our governance to be that of a dictator.
    We know, they don't condone killing at all as they do it by the millions, decade after decade.
    We know they bust big drug dealers because they don't want the competition for the profits.
    The same applies to guns.
    They don't want any competition in the submissive power and control game they are playing.
    But for us/US, it is survival and the ability to fight back when we have to. Not if, but when.

    What would you be able to do? Practically nothing.

    I had an Aussie bus driver, about 30 years old, screaming at me, about to attack an old man, ranting that, "we don't do what is right. We do what the law says!!!"
    He is breaking mentally from those lies, the pressure of being false and having become a mental robot and the new form of Artificial Intelligence.
    He is one particular individual who cannot handle his own insanity and mental illness.
    I also need to protect myself from Manchurian Candidates like him who favor the Fascist Party line.
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      Jan 13 2013: Haven't you heard? It can't happen here.
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      Jan 13 2013: Do you reference the "Burning of the Reischtag" ploy that Hitler used to seize power? If you were a power hungry politician, it would be hard to argue with success. Prior to that event, the German populace has been softened up by working their hatred and fear towards the Communists. Much like what we are being encouraged to do by these prohibitionists here, they abandoned law and moral persuasion and caved into emotional/sentimental, short sighted calls to "do something about it NOW".
      I wonder what the part of Barne's question really means " HAS THE TIME COME"? which relies upon a common misconception that we should change laws to suit the TIMES rather than base laws on fundamental and unchanging principles.

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