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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 6 2013: A little bias disclosure; I have never owned a gun but I do have a moderate amount of experience with them and started shooting at an early age. Michael Moore has pointed out that guns aren't really the problem. It's our fear of each other and our propensity to resolve that fear through violence that is the problem. That said, there's no margin for cooling down between the time you pull the trigger and the damage is done. Assault weapons multiply the potential damage. So while guns aren't the underlying problem, they are the overt agent and their absence would seem to have a positive effect.

    How badly you feel that you need an assault weapon is in direct proportion to how threatened you feel by the outside world; of how certain you are that you will need to defend yourself and that only that kind of firepower will suffice. To state that this is irrational is to state a point of view, not a fact. It will always be untrue until it isn't, at which point it's too late to change the rules.

    What I suggest is that the entire second amendment be enforced. The portion usually quoted is " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". The part that isn't quoted is "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state." At present I see no evidence of either "well regulated" or "militia" or that the state is more "secure" under our current policies. I suspect that the enforcement of these provisions as prerequisites for gun ownership would have a positive impact.
    • Jan 6 2013: First, I don't have much respect for anything Michael Moore says.

      With that said, I don't think fear of each other is the issue. Fear of having harm done to self and family is an issue. The police can't be everywhere and response time is an issue in a quickly volatile situation.

      Many of these weapons are enjoyed by the owner just for the fun of shooting. Many choose a semi-auto pistol for home or personal defense.

      As far as the 2nd Amendment statement, "well regulated" and "militia." We the people, that fought in the Revolution we're the ordinary (farmer, lawyer, printer, etc) citizens. A citizen militia. That is "we the people."

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