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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.

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Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 6 2013: As said before, the answer is no. After what happened after Katrina it is clear that not all government groups wish to help the people. In Australia the government took the guns away and now an Australian police man want to take ours. Why? So dictators may rule?
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      Jan 6 2013: Yes, so that only the government has guns. And we all know that the bigger government gets, the more we can trust it. :)
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      Jan 6 2013: I never said I wanted to take them away I asked if the time had come for the 2nd amendment to be repealed OR AMENDED meaning better regulated to help stop the incredible and ludicrious random acts of violence that are completely uncessary if proper legislation was put in place regulating firearms usage regardless of other underling issues.

      Where on earth do you come up with the Government taking over???? Another piece of complete ludicracy??? If it was going to happen it would of by now.
      The other thing is if it did happen the majority of you for all your big talk to would up towing the line anyway because what the bottom line comes down to is that who ever is in charge supplies and runs all the neccessities you still need for survival Water electricity food all the basics.

      You talk about it being a "Right" it is not actually a "right" its a privillage (one thats been badly interpreted and abused over it's course ((from an outsiders view)) and it was given to you by the Government of the day and can be taken away by the Government of the Present and if that happens there will basically Jack S*it you can do about it.
      Not sure what is scarier the Conspiracy theorists, the gun nuts, or the people on this site who have tried to pass themselves off as intelligent, open minded individuals, shows you we are not as smart as we like to think we are.

      Hardly anyone has actually thought of anyway to curb the violence except those from outside the US who have been shouted down because they are not citizens.

      Thing is people in other countries look to the US and they follow the lead good and bad

      Regards

      The Female Australian Copper
      • Jan 6 2013: We American's can curb the violence with enforcement of our current gun laws. Put the criminals away, with no plea bargaining, in prison. I say extra time if you use a firearm. Enforce the death penalty if you kill someone while committing a crime!

        Allow all law abiding citizens their right to concealed carry. The law already states that if your a felon or have been diagnosed with a mental illness you cannot have a firearm. Concealed carry has already proven to be a deterrent.

        More people are killed in America by other means, so guns are not a primary issue in the hands of trained law abiding citizens.

        If you confiscate weapons, you will never get them out of the hands of devoted criminals. Criminals use what ever weapon is at hand, not necessarily a gun.

        There are a few other things we can do, like improve the proper education about right vs. wrong, etc. Proper and safe use of firearms.

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