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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.

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Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 4 2013: tragic things happened through gun usage in countries
    not only the US but also every single country for to gun keeping regulations. some people may be preparing to pull their trigger even now. we should stop gun usage.
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      Jan 5 2013: Kim, I don't think there is a way to stop gun usage, per say.

      I think gun control is the only path and it is cluttered with holes and slippery slopes. Our only true path is the elevation of the mindset of our civilization.

      It would be just as easy as doing away with guns.

      Removing the human factor still leaves mad dogs and animals that come into contact with human habitation.

      If you are attacked by a pack of pit bulls (just picking a mean looking dog), you will wish for a gun or at least having a neighbor who has one to come to your aid.

      I have friends in England, where most guns are banned. I hear complaints about knives and the viciousness of knife attacks. It's back to that old adage: "People kill people, guns are just one on the tools they use."
      • Jan 6 2013: John, I agree with most of what you said, but "I think gun control is the only path..." Gun control measures, of any sort, don't control the criminal. They only control the free law-abiding citizen. The words in our 2nd Amendment, in part say, "shall not be infringed."
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          Jan 7 2013: How to control guns is the big question Larry. How do we do that?

          The Supreme Court of the United States has "RULED' that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess and carry firearms.

          The question is: 'How do you overturn the Supreme Court ruling?'.

          The answer: it would take a constitutional amendment. While gun owners are extremely organized, lobbied and have tons of money, there is no opposing anti-gun organizations that can equal them in resources and activity.

          We can safely assume that any contest would result in the current Supreme Court Ruling continuing to stay intact. We would be wasting tax payer money and time pursuing such a task.

          This does not say that individual states cannot muddy the waters by placing very restricting conditions on gun ownership. I think it would be rational to say that changing the constitutional amendment is a dead path when other more important congressional pursuits exist.


          To be truthful, I wouldn't know where to start on the State level. There needs to be some kind of nationally organized anti-gun organization that can collect the data and propose possible state mandates to control individual gun-ownership.

          Appealing to the good nature of individual citizens is a wast of time also. They support one day and are against the next. Even liberal minded individuals like myself, experience fear of a well armed government and police force with no opposing citizenry militia to maintain the balance of power. It's a shame we have to rule this planet this way but until we can change, permanently in our affections towards one another, individually or in groups, we are stuck with the nature of humans to both fear and love one another.

          Taking away all guns in the US would leave us open to being conquered by other nations(s). I think it's our armed citizenry that enemy nations fear more than our military might.

          Somehow, we need to learn to live with one another.

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