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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 4 2013: The Second Amendment debate has been framed around gun control which is misguided.
    The events in December were carried out by a mentally unstable individual as all of these crimes are. By definition mass murder is the act of a person insane. So we cannot discuss the repeal of the Second Amendment without including in the discussion the treatment of the mentally ill.

    Over 6 million guns were purchased in the USA in November and December alone so clearly a large segment of the population is not mentally unstable and can own a firearm responsibly.

    The common denominator of mass murderers are the perpetrators are insane or mentally unstable with a trigger event that sets them off on a killing rampage.

    Most of us have health insurance, however except in rare instances there is little or no coverage for mental health care on these policies. Maybe the Democrats can put forth a real solution to the problem with some sort of universal health care for those that are mentally unstable, Private insurance certainly does not want anything to do with this segment of the ill, and Republicans could see this as an acceptable compromise to prevent the further erosion of our second amendment rights.

    There are legitimate uses for firearms, even in a defense capacity. Are we as a people willing to strip our wives and daughters of the option to defend themselves from rape or attack ?

    Feinstein's proposal goes further than an assault weapons ban it outlaws all semi automatic firearms that CAN accept magazines over 10 rounds which would ban most modern firearms both rifles and semi auto pistols.

    150 people die from these insane mass murders each year. Society pays a higher price for the availability of alcohol to the public for deaths due to drunk driving, despite ever tightening laws.

    The proper action is the treating of the mentally ill not stripping the freedoms of the sane.
    Passing the Feinstein proposal is repealing the Second Amendment and not fixing the problem
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      Jan 4 2013: Mentally unstable individual with access to guns.

      Suggest the issue about alcohol is a seperate question. Both can be addressed seperately.

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