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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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    Jan 3 2013: From an outsiders perspective, as a British resident, I don’t understand how some of the people making comments in this feed do not make the link between gun availability in American and the number of gun related fatalities they have.

    In the UK, as with most developed countries, gun crime exists but is extremely rare, as criminals with intent to harm others must have connections, money, and persistence to obtain a firearm through illegal channels. This therefore means that it is next to impossible for a disgruntled employee or a bullied teenager to get hold of a gun, therefore limiting the means for them to take out a school or an office block.

    I personally find it reassuring to live in a country that I can go most places, safe in the knowledge that the likelihood of anyone I interact with having a weapon a minute possibility.

    I understand the passionate stance of those people who feel that the guns are a necessity for their protection against other gun owners, however the people who wield a weapon against an armed enemy are usually the first to die, as the old saying goes “if you live by the sword you die by the sword”.
    • Jan 3 2013: According to the Topic Police this is off topic. The Topic is not about guns in the UK. It is about the II amendment of the US constitution.
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        Jan 3 2013: America does not exist inside a vacuum, so when its government considers changes to the constitution it is ignorant and foolish not look to their neighbour’s successes to understand how they too can be successful in reducing firearm fatalities.

        In that regard, gun control in the UK is very relevant.
        • Jan 3 2013: Deviation from Topic when it is convenient for your argument but not for anyone else. I don't see the UK mentioned anywhere in the Topic.

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