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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Jan 2 2013: I believe we have a case of misleading vividness created by the Sandy Hook event. With all due respect to those impacted by the Sandy Hook shootings "Mass shootings" are but a tiny, tiny problem in the US. Factoring in Columbine to present there have been about 210 people killed in mass shootings in the US.
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      Jan 2 2013: This conversation is not only about mass shootings, it has spread it's wings in all kinds of directions.
      Here are some topics that are being discussed.

      "Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?"
      "Is it only druggies and psychos that kill?"
      "Do guns kill people or do people kill people?"
      "What is a militia?"
      "How can Americans be safe from the government if Americans don't have guns?"
      "What was the intent with the second amendment?"
      "Should guns be allowed at all?"
      "What measure of force should a state be allowed to use against it's citizens?"
      "Does Jimmy Strobl read Joseph Stalins diaries?"

      This and much more... There hasn't been that much about mass shootings actually..

      Btw, did you know that about 600 Americans got shot (with fatal outcome) by accident last year!?
      • Jan 2 2013: The ONLY reason this is a Topic is because of a "Mass Shooting".

        Lots of angles for sure.

        Re "600 Americans"....Yep and about 600,000 died last year from smoking. And somehow we want to trust the same government that regulates the tobacco industry and sanctions those deaths has the citizens best interests in mind.
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          Jan 2 2013: Well, there are other conversations for smoking... this one is about weapons, it's kind of hard discussing everything at the same time.

          But yes, without the mass shootings we would probably not have seen this conversation as a featured one.
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          Jan 3 2013: Ivory Babble,
          You are correct....the reason this is a topic was probably motivated by the recent shooting. Morgan Barnes, the author, apparently decided that it is an important topic to address, and some people agree.

          You are probably also correct with your figure of 600,000 deaths from smoking last year.
          Who put the cigaretts in the mouths of those who died from smoking? We can probably assume that those folks made a choice for themselves to smoke?

          Who shot the bullets into the innocent victims of the recent shooting? We KNOW that was NOT a choice the innocent victims made for themselves. Their deaths were caused by the choice of another person with a gun.

          Do you see that your argument comparing smoking deaths to shooting deaths is not in any way logical?

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