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Morgan Barnes

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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    • Dec 31 2012: Most folks aren't big on history.

      Ammunition can be made at home, most explosives can, maybe modern assault rifles too. That's all assuming of course, the people have a vested interest in them. Seems to me the countries coming to some sort of crisis situation maybe aggressive gun control is the spark that ignites the flame. Can't say I believe it myself but it seems like a possibility.
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      Jan 1 2013: Yes, they are proposing prohibition, and we can expect the same results from the same shallow approach.
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      Jan 1 2013: Jamie,
      I have not seen anyone on this thread suggesting "revoking", repealing or amending the 2nd amendment, nor have I observed anyone suggesting "prohibition" of all guns. If you read through the comments, you will see that most people are in favor of banning assault weapons, as we did once before. When that law was adopted previously, there was no repeal or amendment to anything, because It appears that the constitution and amendment, as written, provides for "regulation" of guns,
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        Jan 1 2013: I am that exception Colleen ^^
        There should be no tools for killing others in this world, if I had one wish I wish they would all disappear.
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          Jan 2 2013: I agree with you Jimmy...there should be no tools for killing others in this world. However, that is not the reality we humans have created. You see right here on this thread, that some folks are afraid to live without guns. They want more guns to protect themselves from those who have more guns....it's a cycle that keeps growing with fear! It may be a little unrealistic to wish they would all disappear, so, I take small steps toward living with fewer guns in our society.....hopefully.

          I honestly believe there will be another ban on assault weapons, so I support that effort which will at least get some of the killing guns out of circulation. Every journey starts with a single step?
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        Jan 2 2013: Yes, it's unrealistic, still I wish for it. I applaud your efforts in making the world a safer, better place, step by step.

        I recently learned a thing or two about the spectra in which we view things, what I'm doing is taking the Utopian approach so that your fight seems more reasonable.
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          Jan 2 2013: And I applaud your efforts as well Jimmy. We are all different, and approach things differently. I tend to stay on a relatively quiet (depends on who you ask!!!), course, moving toward solutions. I like the utopian approach as an end goal, and I believe there are lots of little steps we can take to reach our desired result:>)

          As you know, change is very difficult for some people. Our society has "grown" with an interest in guns....as one person wrote on this comment thread....they are "fun". Sadly, we have normalized guns and killing in our society. Trying to take all guns out of circulation is simply going to frighten some folks, and those who may have mental challenges may collect and use guns even more inappropriately. So I believe it is important to decrease the number of guns in our society, just as we have increased the numbers.

          Some folks are going to go along with the plan to decrease, as we saw from the gun buybacks, and the support for a ban on assault weapons, and some folks are going to continue to "fight" by hording more guns, as we've seen with the increased sale of weapons recently.

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