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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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    Dec 23 2012: No, we should not repeal the second amendment.

    Has anyone read the article written for the Harvard Law Review entitled, "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?" Their short and clear answer: No. The Cato Institute, a highly respected research organization wrote an article entitled, "Gun Control: Myths and Realities" also came to the same conclusion, and there is quite a bit of independently researched information on this. [Counterpoint: I suspect one can find opposing studies - I just haven't found them in my limited searching prior to writing this response.]

    Just to state: I have not ever owned a gun, nor do I plan to own one, and I don't have an agenda in this debate.

    I believe a government effort to ban guns in this country would follow in the same steps as our failed "war on drugs". Just as with drugs, the bad guys can always purchase what they need and outlawing guns would spawn a black market where things will get much worse.

    With the advent of 3-D printers, it will soon become almost trivial and cost effective for anyone to manufacture working guns out of their own home and out of raw materials. A bit like growing pot in your backyard. It will be impossible to prevent the bad guys from making their own guns.

    I think we tend to get blown and bent out of shape around these shooting disasters due to their spectacular nature, the way our media carries this, and the way we as a nation respond to this. I think that just exacerbates the problem. There are far worse tragedies affecting children and adults alike every day, but they are not so news worthy. Daily, I think of the tragedy of thousands of children who die in this country every year from breathing second hand smoke (part of the nearly half a million who die in the U.S. every year from smoking). Those are horrible, prolonged, preventable deaths. That won't be all over the news even though 1,100 die every day in this country from smoking.

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