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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.

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Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Garry Gaudet

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    Dec 22 2012: What are these other countries? Start with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Scandinavian bloc - Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, then Great Britain, France, Germany, Austria..quite a list. Find more at
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

    Kent State was one episode of an out-ofcontrol militia organization "following orders" that were quite warped. So since the 70's, care to state how many mass shootings have taken place in the US by lunatics taking advantage of readily accessible rapid-fire weapons?

    Government may annoy the hell out of us sometimes, but most nations with democratic elections and traditions, prefer that the policing authorities be the ones with automatic weapons and the right to use force, and then only to restore or maintain order. Bad guys without guns, are relatively harmless. It's the bad guys with guns that concern most folks.
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      pat gilbert 100+

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      Dec 22 2012: Would that be true under Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Edie Aman, etc etc?

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ann-coulter/2012/12/19/coulter-column-we-know-how-stop-school-shootings

      • Garry Gaudet

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        Dec 22 2012: Well, no, Pat. Those aren't - or until recently in Germany's case, weren't - 'nations with democratic elections and traditions'.

        In 2009, the rate of intentional murders in the United States was 4.4 per 100,000 people, more than double that of Canada and the United Kingdom. In Japan, which has one of the most restrictive gun-control regimes in the world, that figure was 0.4.
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          pat gilbert 100+

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          Dec 23 2012: Well, no, Garry if they would have armed themselves the country would have been that much more democratic.
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      Gary Taylor

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      Dec 22 2012: Ok. Why do they have a lower murder rate?

      • Garry Gaudet

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        Dec 22 2012: The fact is, they do. Why? Maybe you could tell me why, Gary. I could hazard a few guesses, but I'd like to know what you think.
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          Gary Taylor

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          Dec 23 2012: I really do not know. I would like to know more of these countries culture, politics, etc.

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