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Morgan Barnes

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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    Dec 18 2012: YES. it is time. The second amendment is obsolete. Unfortunately, it will take a few more generations of people to realize this.
    I don't worry about being shot by a Bazooka. Why? Because they are banned. It works.
    Evil people will always be here. I'm sure 1000 years ago, someone came into the market swinging their sword or club.
    I don't have a gun. My dad didn't have one. My grandfather did not have one.
    My best friend has a gun. His dad has many. His grandfather has many.
    Obama just needs can be remembered as the greatest if he'll change the culture.
    Why do you need a gun? You need a gun, like you need a sword, a flamethrower, a bow and arrow, slingshot, etc..... It is my right!!! American's just need their stuff.

    Here's what OBAMA needs to do. Have a mission for no more guns by 2100. HE can start it. He''ll be remembered like landing on the moon. The specifics:

    >Immediate ban on any weapon that can hold more than 6 bullets. (fifty years from now.... 1 bullet)
    >Prison sentence if found with weapon with more than 6 bullets.
    >Complete background check, including all medical records, to purchase a gun.
    >30 day waiting period to obtain gun.
    >Require training to obtain gun.
    >pay 10% quarterly tax to keep a gun.
    >$1000 per showing tax for every movie that has a gunshot in it. (in theaters or TV)
    >$100 per gunshot tax per movie per showing.
    >$500 per showing tax for old western movies with gunshots.
    >If movie has gunshots and wins an oscar, $5,000,000 donation to families of shooting tragedies for that year (Sandy Hook, etc...).
    >$100 tax per sale for every game that includes gunshots.
    > If game company launches game with shooting, $5,000,000 donation to families of shooting tragedies for that year (Sandy Hook, etc...).
    >$100 reward for every gun turned in to be destroyed. (I believe a number of people would donate to pay for this institution)

    Not only could the national debt be eliminated, but there would be less guns!!!!
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      Dec 19 2012: This will require more than changing the 2nd amendment. This plan will require to change the 1st amendment as well (freedom of speech). 16th amendment will have to be changed to "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect direct and indirect taxes on anything without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

      Way to go...

      Instead of restricting freedom of speech, how about thinking before we speak?
    • Dec 20 2012: and your whole post has turned into a farce.

      The thing that has to be implimented is that people need education about firearms and the risks of using them. Teach respect for the tool and for other people. It seems too often that respect for others is forgotten, which helps lead into this type of situation.
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        Dec 20 2012: You do understand, that your well reasoned and simple solution is not what a panic stricken public can appreciate.

        I have had a violently unstable person in my home, we immediately made sure no weapons of any kind were accessible. That included everything from axes to guns. We used normal intelligence and common sense.
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      Dec 20 2012: I see the future you are trying to build.... All movies are chick flicks, and all video games revolve around Barbie dolls, panda bears or Llamas.
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      Dec 21 2012: Are people violent because they watch violence on TV and in computer games or do they show violence on TV because it attracts people? Would people be less obsessed with sex if sexual images and messages were not all over the place?

      As I look at a beautiful woman, I may get some dirty thoughts. Who is to blame? The woman or my sinful self? Similar thoughts cause people to commit rape. What's the solution? Make all women cover their bodies from head to toe as they do in some countries? Ban all images of sensual content? How shall I cover the pictures in my head? Or, perhaps, should I acknowledge what's going on in my head and find a socially acceptable solution?

      Long before guns, video, photography, and computer games (I'm talking biblical times or Genghis Khan era), people used to put whole cities with tens of thousands of people including women and children to the sword. What did that have to do with gun control?
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      Dec 21 2012: You forgot a full cavity search and a tracking microchip implant.

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