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Morgan Barnes

Law Enforcement Officer, government agency

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Has the time come for the U.S Second Amendment to be repealed or amended?

After yesterdays tragic shooting in Newtown CT and the worst year ever for firearm related deaths and mass killings , has the time for the US Government to tell the Gun Lobby it is over and repeal or amend "the right of the people to bear arms".

Should it be repealed on the grounds that when originally written it was for a smaller population to defend the "State" and meant for Muskets and flintlocks not semi automatics and military hardware, which makes it no longer viable on account of relevance to this day and age.

That Militia should be held to Law Enforcement agencies, Military and government controlled Para military agencies, with a show need, clause for people such as certain Primary producers etc.

Is it time to tell the NRA and the Gun Lobby there will be no more "collateral" damage no matter how much you donate to the "Party"

What would be the best way for the government to enforce such a law???

And please no Guns do not kill people, people kill people debates it was people who invented firearms in the first place.

The time has come to realise it is mainly our children who pay the ultimate price for lack of diligence in monitoring a problem that has been there for far too many years.


Closing Statement from Morgan Barnes

Firstly I would like to say I did not flag or delete anyone's comments I am perfectly capable of speaking for myelf however I did get frustrated and had some comments deleted myself.
As I write this President Obama has signed 23 executive orders inline with Colleen's post from yesterday from New York.

I have to admit I am a little disappointed that we could not of just discussed the issue in a more calm, critical and logical manner and be able to offer solutions as well as recognised the underling causes, as this is a forum for open ideas and thinking, Then again we are dealing with human nature.
To those of you from the International community thank you for your imput and allowing people to see the different views helds in different parts of the world on this subject.
I will not deny that the Constitution and The Bill Of Rights are the backbone of America, but remember it was written by man not given by god and man can take it away or amend it, if he really wants too.
I am a believer that in the 21st Century we should use it to advance humankind to address the problems of the world and improve it for all. It won't be easy but we have to start somewhere or we risk implementing our own destruction.
I hope that this be a positive start and and an even more positive step in which the US can show the way.
Once again I thank you all for your contributions

"In a progressive country change in constant : change is inevitable "Benjamen Disraeli

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  • Dec 17 2012: Why can't all firearms have a gps tracking device, so that when it is picked up and moved, a responsible person is alerted, better yet, why can't we add a mechanism that allows remote locking so that theft or illegal possession disqualifies use.
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      Dec 17 2012: I remember when the phrase, "Big Brother Is Watching" sent a shudder of uneasiness down most American's spines. Today it seems, strangely, to have a comforting effect as illustrated by your suggestion. Let's put GPS on the dangerously mental ill young males who demonstrate an ongoing and escalating tendency toward anti-social behavior. Let's not wait until they act-out on a local school. Thank you!
      • Dec 17 2012: I think the social ramifications of putting GPS tracking on "mentally ill young males" is a lot more significant than that of putting them on guns. A gun that leaves its approved zone will be tagged and systems can be put in place for effective monitoring. Like they have said above, we shouldn't suspend gravity because people fall off roofs, but we should make roofs safer so that "falling" from roofs incidents are minimised.
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          Dec 17 2012: Well argued sir. My point, which I always struggle to make clear, but rarely succeed, is that we should pursue a remedy for the problem of school children being targeted by homocidal maniacs. If those young men (and apparently there are many out there) can't get guns they will use some other method and we will still have the problem. Let's go after the root cause which is the freedom enjoyed by these potential killers who have been clinically identified as threats or dangers. We had a system of separating them from society but we abandoned it and used drug therapy instead. Probably a bad idea to let them run around freely. Also, and less important , is the monumental expense, and technical difficulty, of instituting and operating the GPS system you propose. May God help us solve this hellish problem!
      • Dec 17 2012: I think the attacker is as much as a victim as anyone else. If a society chooses to love only those who are healthy and beautiful, then we are as much to blame as anyone. If we only love those who are close to us and forget about those who have no one to love them, we reap what we sow. If guns is your answer to security, then bullets fired shouldnt be a surprise. How we treat our weakest and those who have not, the elderly, the mentally ill is probably the best standard for our humanity. Love should be our answer for security and not threats. The economics of that? I dont know... but Ill think about it today... pmargins...
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          Dec 18 2012: Guns are what can stop the killer once he has started shooting kids. I agree it would be better to prevent it from happening, but that's a different subject. We are talking about how to stop the unloved people from slaughtering first graders. I doubt if offering love would have helped much last Friday in Sandy Hook Elementary, don't you agree?
      • Dec 18 2012: Totally agree but it shouldn't have to get that far. The contention should really be meaningful relationships. Obviously everyne agrees that those lives could have been saved but the question is, is society willing and able to adapt to cater to such. If one is brought up in a world where guns equate security, doesnt that presuppose violence above the creation of a meaningful social circle? Children and guns? Guns should never be allowed within the vicinity of children in the first place. TRY THAT FOR A LAW. How important are our children to us? Hmmm a nice lens to form perspective.
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          Dec 18 2012: When sick, evil people have guns, which they obviously do, the worst of them look for the helpless, the sick, the lame, to attack. Making a "Gun Free Zone" is like posting a a sign for these psychotic predators, a sign saying: "Harmless, Unprotected, Helpless Victims This Way>>>>". Again, we agree that "it shouldn't have to get that far", but, as long as we allow our dangerously mentally ill to run free we need the best solution to keep them from slaughtering our kids. Your proposed solution is exactly the wrong approach.

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