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What are some big social issues that need to be discussed, but aren't?
There are a lot social issues, but which ones are the most un-talked about and important?













joshua rogers
Jacqueline d'Etienne
Krisztián Pintér 200+
carolyn mcauley 20+
Curious AboutLife
MADyMADy MaryA
Ed Schulte 50+
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20715310
pat gilbert 100+
Bob Stiglitz
"or me, it is an easy decision. any time a company does something evil, it does so with the help of government. "
This is what you don't get, corporations _have no need_ of government they can still get away with even more if you reduce the size (and power) of government because they have the _resources_. You keep forgetting this. The problem is not an easy one because money is power in market society and markets _are not_ self correcting, people will _not_ vote with their dollars because the system simply doesn't work according to how you think it does.
One only has to look at STEAM. Steam's success rides on the back of public ignorance of technology and general lack of intelligence in the gaming population, steam is DRM and it needed no government intervention it used propaganda techniques and a trojan horse strategy (take their popular games, forcibly embed steam within it, have ignorant unconcerned illiterate public buy/use it). Steam needed no help from government to get away with taking away your rights to own your own software because _they don't need government do this_ they can come up with all sorts of loopholes to get away with it with or without government because technology allows all sorts of shenanigans (like taking computer code hostage, see: Diablo 3 auctionhouse)
The company can create and invent around any attempt by redefining rights removal in language.
Another good example is pollution, modern multi-nationals and businesses are always looking to externalize and offload risk (cost) onto either 1) environment or 2) people and people simply will not react fast enough or with enough numbers because there are huge confounding factors like: awareness, intelligence, education, etc.
This is why markets are not self correcting and trying to apply ideological principles to a reality that does not work according to them will always end in failure.
John Frum 30+
What Steam does is not propaganda. That's not what the word means. You don't have a right to software or games. Steam is not taking away your rights by enforcing some prerequisites for playing their games. Don't like it? Don't buy their games. As simple as that.
Contrast this with the Apple tax that other phone companies have to pay. You, the customer, pay that tax even if you have sworn off Apple.
Pollution: many companies abuse lax laws in other countries and pollute them. They are able to do so because the governments there don't do their only legitimate role: protecting the rights of their citizens. I have a right to clean air in my own house. And yet, if I were to stay in some polluted Asian country, the big industry next door spews chemicals into the air, and the government does nothing to protect my rights in my own house.
Good ideology is the only way out. Make sure you understand capitalist ideology before you embark on debunking it. Otherwise, we sink deeper and deeper into the mess we are making all over the world these days. How did this mess happen?
Bob Stiglitz
You're wrong and an idiot, the fact that we already have these companies infringing on our rights is proof that you're wrong.
Just because you want to allow people to sell themselves into slavery doesn't mean it's ok or a good idea.
Just because something is entered into does not mean it is good.
John Frum 30+
Don't mistake your pathetic reading comprehension for a reflection on my intelligence.
"the fact that we already have these companies infringing on our rights is proof that you're wrong."
What the heck are you talking about now? Steams activities are not an infringement. Companies dumping chemicals into rivers IS an infringement. But first of all, do you understand what "private property" is? You can understand infringement only if you comprehend private property. The game company did not sell you a game. If it is really yours, don't you think you can make copies of it and sell that to other people. Do you understand what "license" means? All they ever sold you was a license to play a particular game. There were terms and conditions to the license which you could reject, and thus, not sign up for the license.
"Just because you want to allow people to sell themselves into slavery doesn't mean it's ok or a good idea."
Now THIS is a reflection on your intelligence. What next? I am a slave to my local cinema just because they have made restrictions on what I can bring with me to the cinema?
"Just because something is entered into does not mean it is good."
I asked you how this MESS happened, and you're telling me not to assume it is good. Is there such a thing as "good mess"?
Krisztián Pintér 200+
where would you place that argument on the argument pyramid?
http://scienceblogs.com/ethicsandscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/377/files/2012/04/i-5d00a8cff5a51e29765c72572386b44a-Disagreement-hierarchy.jpg
pat gilbert 100+
Bob Stiglitz
Krisztián Pintér 200+
since when market creates laws? since when the market creates privileges? since when market creates the state? if the government is on sale, don't you think the government might have something to do with it? they bear, you know, some responsibility about it? just sayin
Bob Stiglitz
Copyright law is one good example of monopoly rich members of society vote themselves, the problem is in historical practice, rich people always expand and abuse their power by buying up congressmen and spreading propaganda and leading astray the public to protect their interests.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
See more here:
http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~dkarjala/opposingcopyrightextension/default.htm
Copyrights and intellectual property are restrictions on freedom. We don't have a software repair industry for instance (even though we should) because copyright allows one to lock away source-code permanently when things like games should be going into public domain and libraries (as works of culture). Corporations are allowed to confiscate cultural works by fiat because they can simply buy lawmakers.
DRM in video-games is a perfect example of this confiscating your right to own the stuff you buy. Works of culture and people are controlled by authoritarian rules enacted and influenced by corporations.
People are not free to create or re-create works (that they built entirely themselves) and are not selling because of legal con-artists.
http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/
Once monied interests buy and create laws you have anonymous dictatorship of corporations just as unfree as totalitarian regimes because no one can check their power effectively because they have all the money and incentive to defeat regulations.
The below should be able to be done with every game we buy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAR8rWPluQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeSpace_2_Source_Code_Project
Krisztián Pintér 200+
you conclude that we need to put an end to companies. i conclude that we need to get rid of government (anarchy), or at least not allow it to interfere with the economy (minarchy).
for me, it is an easy decision. any time a company does something evil, it does so with the help of government. without such a help, companies don't engage in horrendous acts. on the other hand, governments commit most terrifying crimes all the time. who locks up millions of young black people in jail for possessing drugs? who bombs countries, killing innocent people day by day? who maintains a police force that routinely violates the rights of citizens? who disregards human rights on daily basis, detaining people without court order, claiming the right to look into any database, search any house without due process? who maintains an army capable of destroying all the armies on the earth combined? who uses the control of the money supply for its own advantage, essentially robbing every citizen in the country? who claims the right to confiscate any land as they see fit?
if you get a letter from walmart, what do you feel before opening it? and if you receive a letter from a state department? who is to really fear?
Bob Stiglitz
http://fora.tv/2010/03/03/Richard_Wolff_Capitalism_Hits_the_Fan
carolyn mcauley 20+
joshua rogers
Henry Woeltjen 10+
One of the larger issues is k-12 education and our lack of resources in that regard. Many of the universities and secondary schools are well funded and do function very well. However, I think we can all agree that K-12 education has seriously failed.
We haven't really chanced things in decades. Children are coming back with the same test scores we saw in the 60's. So we haven't been able to develop better teaching strategies.
I think the biggest problem we face is education...and making sure people are able to realize their potential...not drown in life before that can happen.
Don Anderson 20+
The most developed nation in the world should not ignore its next door neighbor’s economic hardships. It fact the US should feel ashamed of itself.
Instead of only discouraging illegal immigration, we should also encourage Mexico’s development and thus giving a encouragement to stay. America needs to shut-up and listen, and give them the help they want. micro-loans, agricultural, police, military, trade improvements, economic-zones, or pink bunny rabbits, whatever they say will help.
Dan Geurin 10+
shawn disney 10+
Richard Krooman 50+
People should be less concerned about money and more concerned about value!
Rather than becomming a rich person you should aim to become a person of value.
A person of high value has a lot of virtues as well as knowledge. This will often lead to much prosparity for both him(/her) and the surroundings.
While a person can become rich by showing an extreme lack of virtue crippling the surroundings by abusing his knowledge.
We are confusing them way too often.
Richard Krooman 50+
For instance I wrote a topic on TED about how using the concequences (concepts) of the "law of preservation of energy" should affect our thinking but doesn't.
(short version "energy non-efficient lightbulbs" are mainly light producing heaters so using them as lights in cold environments (inside homes which need to be heated) 'wastes no energy')
There are many more scientific findings which are just being ignored.
Also a LOT of effort is being made into deepening research on topics but never into combining research.
For instance we've just now succeded in finding the 'higgs boson' which would radically change our views of physics in the next few years.
But if you would ask a physics student how a chemical reaction works he'll be almost completely clueless compared to the chemics student being asked the same question. While if you ask a chemist student how the universe works it'll be the other way around. Even though the subjects are so closely related that they should actually almost merge (given all the data we have at this point in time there is no real use in seperating the 2 anymore imho).
Another major issue is how we "do not discriminate being different". According to our education system and according to all other people... YOU MUST BE AVERAGE!
If you're not good at math you have to study it more, if you're not good at sports you have to work out. When you're extremely good at math you don't get it taught as all efforts go into making those bad at it average.
If you REALLY love cleaning... you are still required to have ambitions to become the next president. Because hey if doing what you love doesn't make you at least 6 figures it ain't worth doing.
Being introverted is not acceptable to society.
Being too extroverted is also a no go.
etc.etc.
The goal of society has become to create people that pass standarized tests. And fit into predefined boxes.
Curious AboutLife
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Curious AboutLife
pat gilbert 100+
America has raised the standard of living of the world more than any country in the history of the world through American inventions.
If this wasn't true everyone would descend upon me as they hate acknowledging that this is true.
Prakar Jeevan
Derek Young 30+
Salim Solaiman 50+
nick haagsma
Jan Bull
1) Aging population and explosive, untenable health care costs and provision: We MUST MUST MUST, change the nature of the conversation from preserving life at All costs, to one of quality of life and conversations about the End-of-Life. We need to facilitate Advance Directives by tying them to applying for Medicare and/or having primary care doctors initiate this important conversation. Life and death is a "conversation" according to Frances Norwood who stuided euthansia in the Netherlands. There, the practice does NOT increase the incidence of physician assisted suicide, but it DOES promote these dificult conversations (see The Maintenance of Life: Preventing Social Death Through Euthanasia Talk and End-of-Life Care - Lessons from the Netherlands by Frances Norwood (Aug 15, 2009)
2) What will the Jobs be for our Children in a HIGH Tech world?
Jo Morrissey
richard moody jr 10+
Ramaro Barnes
richard moody jr 10+
max golding
white people of ted, start here immediately:
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Curious AboutLife
andrew jones
Robert Winner 50+
What I am saying is that much of what we see as issues really aren't issues at all. They are wants, desires, goals, dreams, etc ...
Do wrongs exist. You bet. There are good people who are working to resolve them as best as possible. There are bad people who keep the pot stired up as much as possible. Each generation has made progress. Cultural change evolves over a long period of time.
What is most important is really each persons call. What is important to me may come way down the list for you if it is even on your list.
What IS important is that we do not sit on the sidlines and remain part of the problem. We need to become involved and become part of the solution.
All the best. Bob.
Tao P 50+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Tao P 50+
My original post was more in reference to the constantly increasing length of the work week. The promise of machines that make our lives easier is a the ever larger carrot being dangled in front of us. We work so hard to keep 'the machine' of the World economic system marching forward but to what end? More of the same it seems.
Perhaps if the aim of our society was something other than economic growth we could better improve the quality of life for the citizenry of the World.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Tao P 50+
carolyn mcauley 20+
richard moody jr 10+
Maaher Sayeed 10+
I would say Quality Education.
This is an "unbiased and fact based" education system. The education system can be flawed and it is so in many countires in terms of what is being fed into the growing and learning minds. Schooling is an essential part of personal development. Hence it is imparative that the quality of the lessons and the "educational expereince" is clear, without prejudice, fair and fact based. And most importantly a system that educated an individual about global development and cultures is essential in todays progressive world.
Edcation shoudl not be about just passing grades or ranking systems. It needs to be a developmental expereince that encourages critical and analtical thinking at all levels. It should encourage sharing ideas and learning from others beyond the classroom or country.
Curious AboutLife
Maaher Sayeed 10+
http://despicablewonderfulyou.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/to-learn-or-not-to-learn-that-is-no-longer-a-question/
Curious AboutLife
Yes, and yes :)
The current system is soo irritating to me. Just.. pointless to me, because it really teaches you how to do one thing: follow directions. Not really my cup of tea, in terms of learning.
And I like your post. Very insightful.
Emily Blegvad
shawn disney 10+