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Why does the American government meddle in everything?
Arrogance and ambition prevents healthy thinking... people have died because of the American government's ambition... however humanity is still silent.
Is there a solution for this?
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russell lester
edward long 100+
Apparently you disagree with my response given specifically to Mr. Lee. Do you have anything more substantial to contribute than an arbitrary, non-specific, unsolicited, irrelevant personal assessment of my intellectual acuity? Your response adds nothing to the debate by way of enlightenment.
John Frum 30+
* "Iraq was held hostage by a savage, maniac dictator who needed to be put out of a job." Savage and maniacal in whose eyes? Many have said this about Bush also. In any case, Saddam was made powerful with America's meddlesome support.
* Afghanistan and Pakistan: I agree with you -- for the current scenario. America is looking out for its own security, as it should. I still disagree with the American means of doing it. But, to start with, America and USSR ruined Afghanistan. In any case, Osama Bin Laden was made powerful with America's meddlesome support.
* Korea and Vietnam: There are many people asking for help, all the time. The American government only helps when it can spread its imperialist wings.
* The malignancy of communism is alive and well within America. It is just called by a different name.
* America is a totalitarian ruler too.
edward long 100+
John Frum 30+
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-KA-Nc3_k
2. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Saddam_MadeInUSA.html the article has enough references of its own. Also http://usiraq.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000887
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone. I was wrong about Osama Bin Laden. The US "only" supported the mujaheddin.
4. I'll not go on about Korea and Vietnam. My own knowledge is patchy.
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng
6. http://thewarningsigns.blogspot.com/2011/04/67-year-old-man-arrested-for-minting.html or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar#Legal_issues
The links I have provided are only a small sampling.
American totalitarianism is like the apocryphal frog in boiling water.
edward long 100+
2) Absolutely yes we did arm Iraq as an ally against Iran.
3) Absolutely yes we did arm the mujahideen as allies against the communists.
5) I see no relevance to this debate in this Obama rhetoric.
6) Passing off silver coins as US currency is illegal. Is prosecuting counterfeit violations meddling?
7) Evidence indicates an intent to deceive buyers about coins being official US currency.
Finally, the meaning or relevance of your remark about an "apocryphal frog" escapes me completely.
John Frum 30+
2 & 3. Why did you disagree with me earlier? I am completely confused.
5. Don't you think that that point of view is "communist"? The fact that Obama says it so openly, and so many Americans agree with it, and want the state to do more, indicates that communist ideologies are endemic in the US.
6. No one passed it off as US currency. The were not counterfeit: they did not pretend to be something they are not. It is currency, just thy way bitcoin is. By "US currency", do you mean "made by the US government"? The people who made Liberty Dollars hate the government. Why would they even want to pass it off as US currency? Please point me to the evidence.
US totalitarianism is happening very slowly. People's rights are being taken away in little bits. That's why most people don't notice, and think the US is still the land of the free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
edward long 100+
1) I was a weapons designer for several prime contractors to the Pentagon. The Israelis were often "the customer". That I know from experience. The Iron Dome is our technology. The US supports Israel, period!
2 &3) I did not disagree that we armed those two, I disagree that we knew Sadaam was a homocidal maniac when we armed him. (We KNOW he had WMD, we sold them to him, they are buried somewhere in Iraq.) The mujahadeen were enemies of our enemy, aka our strategic friend, so we armed them to impede our enemy. That's good, proven strategy!
5) I differentiate between communism and socialism. Obama is the latter as are 47% of Americans.
6) The charges state there was an affort to misrepresent the coins as US currency. Perhaps they are unfounded, but they are the basis of prosecution.
Finally, agreed, the US is becoming socialist, but that is not the same as totalitarian. We still have checks and balances which are non-existent in a dictatorship, like Egypt is about to become.
Thanks for being patient!
John Frum 30+
Now, not directly related to the main topic of discussion:
5. Agreed, there is a difference between communism and socialism. But none of the "communist countries" were communist. They were all socialist.
6. Some of us, especially the free-market people, think that the existence of the federal reserve is an interference in the internal affairs.
7. I get the impression that "checks and balances" has become just eyewash. I'm not in the US, and therefore somewhat ignorant. But can you give me recent examples of where these checks and balances worked?
edward long 100+
EDIT: I can't find the Tibet report so I want to change the reference to a speech Barak Hussein Obama gave to Latinos recently where he siad he wished he could circumvent Congress, but added "that's not the way our Democracy (Note: the US, which he is the Chief Executive of, is not a democracy, it is a Representative Republic) works".