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Can Ulusoy

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Why does the American government meddle in everything?

Arrogance and ambition prevents healthy thinking... people have died because of the American government's ambition... however humanity is still silent.

Is there a solution for this?


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    Nov 24 2012: Because it has the power to do so and it is looked to by various national and transnational interests to make its power felt in a variety of places to support or oppose any given cause. But mostly because they can, ability to do something naturally impels the doing of it.
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      Nov 24 2012: RE: "it's astounding . . ."
      Apparently you disagree with my response given specifically to Mr. Lee. Do you have anything more substantial to contribute than an arbitrary, non-specific, unsolicited, irrelevant personal assessment of my intellectual acuity? Your response adds nothing to the debate by way of enlightenment.
      • Nov 24 2012: * Israel turns down American "help".
        * "Iraq was held hostage by a savage, maniac dictator who needed to be put out of a job." Savage and maniacal in whose eyes? Many have said this about Bush also. In any case, Saddam was made powerful with America's meddlesome support.
        * Afghanistan and Pakistan: I agree with you -- for the current scenario. America is looking out for its own security, as it should. I still disagree with the American means of doing it. But, to start with, America and USSR ruined Afghanistan. In any case, Osama Bin Laden was made powerful with America's meddlesome support.
        * Korea and Vietnam: There are many people asking for help, all the time. The American government only helps when it can spread its imperialist wings.
        * The malignancy of communism is alive and well within America. It is just called by a different name.
        * America is a totalitarian ruler too.
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          Nov 24 2012: I categorically reject everything you just said with the exception of the part where you exressed ageement with me. If you don't see a difference between President Bush and Hussein I think you are not being serious. One used poison gas on his own citizens. The other tracked him down and and turned him over to the authorities who promptly hung him. Do you know what Imperialism looks like?. . . there are colonies sworn to loyalty to the imperialist conqueror. Name the US colonies for me please. Communism may be alive in America, but it only thrives in the protective artificial atmosphere of our institutions of higher learning. America is not totalitarian.
      • Nov 25 2012: References for my statements:
        1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-KA-Nc3_k
        2. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Saddam_MadeInUSA.html the article has enough references of its own. Also http://usiraq.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000887
        3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone. I was wrong about Osama Bin Laden. The US "only" supported the mujaheddin.
        4. I'll not go on about Korea and Vietnam. My own knowledge is patchy.
        5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng
        6. http://thewarningsigns.blogspot.com/2011/04/67-year-old-man-arrested-for-minting.html or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Dollar#Legal_issues

        The links I have provided are only a small sampling.

        American totalitarianism is like the apocryphal frog in boiling water.
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          Nov 25 2012: 1) No disagreement here. Israel wants , and needs, our technology, not our troops.
          2) Absolutely yes we did arm Iraq as an ally against Iran.
          3) Absolutely yes we did arm the mujahideen as allies against the communists.
          5) I see no relevance to this debate in this Obama rhetoric.
          6) Passing off silver coins as US currency is illegal. Is prosecuting counterfeit violations meddling?
          7) Evidence indicates an intent to deceive buyers about coins being official US currency.
          Finally, the meaning or relevance of your remark about an "apocryphal frog" escapes me completely.
      • Nov 25 2012: 1. I don't know what you mean by "our" technology. Technology has ceased to be the dominion of a handful of countries. Many multinationals of US and European origin who have huge research centers in Israel. If you meant weapons made by US companies, and Israel pays with their own money, the US would still not be said to be "supporting" Israel.
        2 & 3. Why did you disagree with me earlier? I am completely confused.
        5. Don't you think that that point of view is "communist"? The fact that Obama says it so openly, and so many Americans agree with it, and want the state to do more, indicates that communist ideologies are endemic in the US.
        6. No one passed it off as US currency. The were not counterfeit: they did not pretend to be something they are not. It is currency, just thy way bitcoin is. By "US currency", do you mean "made by the US government"? The people who made Liberty Dollars hate the government. Why would they even want to pass it off as US currency? Please point me to the evidence.

        US totalitarianism is happening very slowly. People's rights are being taken away in little bits. That's why most people don't notice, and think the US is still the land of the free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
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          Nov 25 2012: Someday I will learn to communicate clearly in few words. Sorry for the confusion. I'll try again:
          1) I was a weapons designer for several prime contractors to the Pentagon. The Israelis were often "the customer". That I know from experience. The Iron Dome is our technology. The US supports Israel, period!
          2 &3) I did not disagree that we armed those two, I disagree that we knew Sadaam was a homocidal maniac when we armed him. (We KNOW he had WMD, we sold them to him, they are buried somewhere in Iraq.) The mujahadeen were enemies of our enemy, aka our strategic friend, so we armed them to impede our enemy. That's good, proven strategy!
          5) I differentiate between communism and socialism. Obama is the latter as are 47% of Americans.
          6) The charges state there was an affort to misrepresent the coins as US currency. Perhaps they are unfounded, but they are the basis of prosecution.
          Finally, agreed, the US is becoming socialist, but that is not the same as totalitarian. We still have checks and balances which are non-existent in a dictatorship, like Egypt is about to become.
          Thanks for being patient!
      • Nov 26 2012: 2 & 3. This is exactly what most people discussing here call "meddling" :-) As for "good, proven strategy", empire building has always proven to be bad strategy, whether done by Americans or by Russians. This policy is now biting the US back.

        Now, not directly related to the main topic of discussion:
        5. Agreed, there is a difference between communism and socialism. But none of the "communist countries" were communist. They were all socialist.
        6. Some of us, especially the free-market people, think that the existence of the federal reserve is an interference in the internal affairs.

        7. I get the impression that "checks and balances" has become just eyewash. I'm not in the US, and therefore somewhat ignorant. But can you give me recent examples of where these checks and balances worked?
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          Nov 26 2012: Obama told the leader of Tibet recently that he wished he could circumvent Congress to achieve his purposes. That is how a check works.
          EDIT: I can't find the Tibet report so I want to change the reference to a speech Barak Hussein Obama gave to Latinos recently where he siad he wished he could circumvent Congress, but added "that's not the way our Democracy (Note: the US, which he is the Chief Executive of, is not a democracy, it is a Representative Republic) works".

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