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Roger Farinha

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Should Israel go all out?

Israel clearly exists as a nation on the basis of its claim to have been given its traditional land borders by the revelation of the one true God. Compromise therefore doesn't make sense. "In for a penny, in for a pound." Should Israel just chuck in its tiptoeing around the various international and Arab demands, take its original borders, and let its very existence rest on the promise of God? To me, this is the only rational option, given the very identity of the Jewish people. What say you?

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    Nov 23 2012: Should the people of Israel sucumb to the rapine of the psychopaths amongst them?

    Perhaps.

    Perhaps this is the only way to have the stain cauterised for once and for all.

    Perhaps such a demonstation of sadistic rapine is required for all to observe as a lesson.

    But for what purpose? we already know that our states are penetrated and stained by the psychopath. Don't we?

    And what of teh people? What of those who are not psychopathic? Those who are not riven by ideology and the growing grudge of historical harm - real or imagined?

    I have a better idea. Assemble a massive team of psycho thereapists, doctors and healers - and treat every single one in Israel until the harm of their ancestors is finally healed.

    End that rapine of the ages.
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      Nov 23 2012: Don't you realize that this logical ultimatum of mine is the ACTUAL reasoning behind the settlers on the West Bank? They are gradually trying to, in effect, take back the biblical lands of Israel, while the Arabs keep objecting to peace.

      But I'm against them because they do so hypocritically. Why don't they just go all out, publicly and privately?
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        Nov 23 2012: It is a terrible situation .. I have friends inside and outside of Israel, most are apalled by the situation and want nothing but peace - can see no reason for conflict.
        But there are others who push agendas - whether their true motives are ideological does not matter. What matters is teh psychopathy which drives it.
        The Ideological and political currents are the method by which these insane indiviuals take advantage. THey are locally based, and widenned into the world arena only to serve local agendas - in both camps. There is a thread .. a faint-wiff .. of dynamics occuring in the internal mechanations of both the Arab and Israeli communities in which their conflicts are externalised on each other - and from there to the rest of the world. Always, when one asks people on the ground what is going on - it is revealed that the true conflict is between factions in each community.

        Perhaps you are right - perhaps we should just stand aside and let these historical struggles just discharge in holacaust.

        During the "liberation" of Iraq, I had a friend from Iraq. He was appalled. I tried to comfort him saying "The USA will conclude this invasion within a week or 2 - why are you afraid? He said "It's not the USA .. it's Iraq .. millions will die."

        Right now I have a Sirian friend. THe story is the same.

        RIght now, Iran is being forced into war. I will have Irani friends - and I cannot console them.
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          Nov 23 2012: Gee you have a lot of friends among the war torn, lol. One way to defeat the world is to conquer them with materialism-- give them the latest clothes, sneakers, video games, and smart phones. Let them be like guinea pigs on the wheel of consumerism.

          Yea! Let's take over the world with consumerism! lol
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        Nov 23 2012: Hi Roger,

        In case you haven't noticed - the world is already taken over by consumerism.
        Look up in your own sky - you see those aenemic whispy clouds?
        Where once you saw robust fat clouds in clear blue skies?
        Those sick looking clouds that dull the world are from cloud-seeding.
        The cloud seeding is done to attempt the filling of the water reseviours.
        Each state is competing for the moisture in the air - to feed the cities and keep the consumers in place to consume.
        You were not asked for consent for this vandalism of the sky - were you?
        But there it is.
        The war-torn are all around you.
        Compassion leads us into clear vision - and when you see them, the stories come tumbling out.
        Sadness is not a thing to fear. After knowing these things, you also see the same black thing that hurt all these people. It is psychopathy.
        A lot of it radiates from the USA - and I see it in those who have been harmed by it.
        Sadness cannot be cured by ignorance or violence - these things only make it worse.
        The legacy of the psychopath is the sociopath - a person crushed by more sadness than a human heart can bare.
        It all comes from the psycho - and he is clever enough to pretend to represent us while vandalising our earth our waters our skies - for a few shiny beads, useless toys and endless supplies of the tasteless, toxic muck that passes for food these days.
        It will play out in Israel as it will play out in the world.
        The tower of Babel has touched the Sun, and he will not be pleased at all.

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