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How Biosocial Pressures Could Trigger a Cataclysmic Event
Analyzing current world events both socially and economically, one sees much more frustration and anger in society today than there was four to five decades ago. In a world where 0.01% of the population in America own more of the national wealth now than at any time since 1928*, is a reason for that anger. From the Arab Spring to Occupy Wall Street, we saw and still see protesters demanding justice, change and equal opportunities. We know that 90-95% of all crime and violence stem from monetary reasons (usually the lack of it), so we must begin to ask the question - is it worth it? Is it worth having a socioeconomic system that allows and even glorifies a 'hardworking' percentage of the population to absorb as much money as they pleases at the expanse of the rest, in hope that one day we all will reach such heights? By the way, I do not suggest that any activist group will eventually resort to violence as a natural step, I am merely looking at the trends globally and how it could degenerate from certain economic levels.
On top of technological unemployment and outsourcing of jobs and labor (due to profit and efficiency), what will happen the day hyperinflation kicks in and the purchasing power of the general public decreases? What will happen the day people have no other option to get food than by breaching a local store or tearing down a shopping mall? What will happen the day people get thrown out of their homes and left for the streets as a result of reckless monetary policies? What will happen the day people say enough is enough and starts invading those who have all the wealth? Will protecting these assets and wealth at all costs be justified by putting people in jail for allegedly stealing or, if it reaches mass eruption, to even neutralize the invaders?
So, is it all doom and gloom or are you more optimistic about the future? And what is logical next step?
* http://topincomes.g-mond.parisschoolofeconomics.eu














Barry Palmer 50+
Most people think it is worth it. At least, the vast majority of people in the west are not about to join a violent revolution to change the status quo. Were you around four and five decades ago? I remember the marches, the bombings, the assassinations and the sit-ins. Frustration and anger are normal. They are great motivators to better the circumstances of our families.
Unless and until circumstances get much worse, get used to it.
Patience Gardener
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Another alternative could be an unconditional basic income for everybody, both rich and poor, that ensures the necessities of life thus creating economic mobility and flexibility that would amplify freedom and opportunity.
Grace Greene 10+
I don't want to prevent what is to come. I want a better life.
John Smith 30+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
1. Biosocial means a completely different thing
2. "one sees much more frustration and anger in society today" - probably not true
3. "We know that 90-95% of all crime and violence stem from monetary reasons" - unlikely. many crimes happen out of anger, fear or recklessness. another big part is drug use
John Smith 30+
That's the minority of crimes, the majority of crime does come from people wanting to get rich (or richer) quick or from people who really have no money (sometimes that's their own fault, sometimes it's not). The whole of organized crime centers around money and drug use would be lowered if there weren't so many people trying to escape from monetary problems.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
John Smith 30+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
John Smith 30+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
if you carefully select the cases, no doubt you can prove anything.
Mats Kaarbö 10+
And why do people get angry, fearful or reckless? Mostly because of monetary reasons like inequality and insecurity which has a direct effect on your social relations which also has an effect on your health. This is proven in Richard Wilkinson's study which you can watch in the related talks in the description of this conversation. I urge you to research more about topics before you make baseless claims. It fosters a much more productive and healthy conversation instead of filling up the space with nonproductive stuff.
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Would you please follow out these scenarios for Norway, as you have posed this question and Norway is where you live?
Mats Kaarbö 10+
It depends on the biosocial pressures that emerge in any given region. This could easily happen in America as it could in Somalia.
"Would you please follow out these scenarios for Norway, as you have posed this question and Norway is where you live?"
Like I said, it all depends on the biosocial pressures. It can happen here in Norway as in any other place in the world.
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Fritzie Reisner 100+
I thought that was what you wanted to explore.
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Fritzie Reisner 100+
So why don't you start by getting specific about how this would unfold in Norway?
Fritzie Reisner 100+
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Jedrek Stepien 10+
Mats Kaarbö 10+
Jedrek Stepien 10+