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Theodore A. Hoppe


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What is the origin of the idea that a deity created the world?

Many attribute the creationist concept for the world's origin to the Jewish text scribed by Moses, The Book of Genesis, but what was Moses source for this story? Are there other stories about the beginning of the world that predate the Old Testament account? Please provide references and not just speculation.


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    Nov 2 2012: Theodore, I guess you question is rhetorical, unless you take the bible literally.

    From a scientific or historical perspective I guess you need to look at the development of the Jewish/Hebrew culture as distinct or derivative from other groups.

    The question then is how old are the Hebrew creation myths. What were the cultural influences on these Caananite, Bablonian

    What other creation myths are we aware of. I suggest there are many just as old or older than the hebrew ones. Babylonian, Egyptian, Minoan etc

    There is evidence of Neolithic cities from 10,000 years ago.

    Stonehenge is 10000 years old predating the existence of the hebrews

    We have Sumerian writings codified their religion 5000 years ago

    Egyptian records of gods etc 4500 years ago

    Evidence of Minoan religion back as far as 4200 years

    First monotheism known in Egypt 3400 years ago.

    Then we have writing on the Torah about 3000 years ago

    How long have modern humans been around. 100,000-200,000 years.
    We have 25,000 year old eve statuettes.
    30,000 year old cave paintings
    No details of specific creation stories that old but it is bizarre to think the hebrew creation myths are the earliest.
    Every culture seems to have its own creation stories, and there are plenty of cultures predating the development of the hebrew tribes.

    Hopefully a qualified anthropologist or historian can comment.
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      Nov 2 2012: Re:Hopefully a qualified anthropologist or historian can comment.

      I am currently reading the new book by Chris Stringer, "Lone Surviver." Stringer is the world's foremost paleoanthropologist. His new book puts forward radical new theory of humanity's origin. Never before have we had the tools and the science to unlock remarkable evolutionary insights that can help us to understand why we are the only humans left on Earth.
      I'll confess that this question was aimed at some of the TED commenters that do have a more religious perspective than I do. Evolution and creation have been discussed before in TED conversation, but rarely, if ever, do creationist indicate where this concept's roots come from. Those that subscribe to Abrahamic religions generally ignore the details of early history (except for the mention Adah and Zillah).
      In "The History of God" by Karen Armstrong, she writes,
      "Interest in Yahweh as a Creator did not enter Judaism until in exile to Babylon."
    • Nov 2 2012: u do not have to obey, all I ask is u challenge yourself to perceive that from the very beginning we misinterpreted our existence and meaning and that is why we have no answers now, we slowly walked away from it...as told in a story...

      Regardless of what understanding of God you have, our history without all the measurement and debate is a universe,including an entity which at one particular time was struck by a meteor, years later mankind appeared mumbling something about descending from the dust...the events after that although entertainingly loaded with hypocrisy are irrelevant to the number one question...Who told us we descended from the dust...ourselves?

      A possibility; the earth is a living entity which as all living entities it can communicate, with animals we call it instinct which we used to work with in the beginning more so than now. So if this is true, how does it communicate...possibly through the energy that flows through us, inspiring thought which was defined as a voice in the head, religion refers to the energy as spirit.

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