michel lippitsch

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"No Take" fishing area owned by local communities as fish-producing factories

To convince local rural population that a healthy ecosystem will produce products faster than any other method as "nature/life" is the ultimate efficient system. the "fish factory" works on it's own, without supervision, 24 hours a day, without rest or public holiday. All you have to do is make sure to leave it alone and no one steal the workers of your factory.

I am testing the idea with a local village. they have seen countless agencies, ngo and so on with few follow up and endless promises. A compensation fund is proposed to account proportionately for immediate loss of revenue, and protection of their assets.

i heard often and used the banking system as a analogy, but i think factory might resonate better for certain communities.

simplistic but need to be to not overpower local comunity with information overload. from there it can expand.

the idea is not new, but the formulation of it might be.

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    Nov 5 2012: Dear Michel:

    Interesting problem... I would focus on something bigger than a compensation. In my experience people will prefer the current situation to the change for the same $ (you are impacting their routine, their lifestyle, their relationships, etc, even if they just talk money).

    Some ideas for job creation here:
    How about ecotourism?
    Some micro funding for entrepreneurs / courses.
    Local infrastructure improvement.
    There are some infrastructure investments that can increase wildlife biomass like artificial reefs or kelp farms.

    Also I know countries like Brazil pay fishermen for a few month each year a salary to protect the reproduction season, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracema

    So I would focus my energy in showing them what the can do with their time and how things can improve in their life/town, rather than how fishing will improve if they just wait and get a subsidy in the mean time.

    Hope I was able to help.

    Than you for the opportunity to discuss the solution to an actual issue :)



    Ps I would also recommend understanding the power dynamics in that community and focussing the influence on the right people
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      Nov 5 2012: thanks. what is happening is bigger potentially than the compensation, but the dinamics of the local community is quite complex.

      this is really the opening chapter.

      the local community has been approached before by a few numbers of organisation, promising a lot.
      you can only put on the table what you can acomplish with certainty.

      the initial funding comes from a eco resort in the form of a entrance fee to the area. most funds collected will go to the fisherman, but a small part is dedicated to what they call socialisation.

      the resort employs already more than a hundred people, in all types of area, from maintenance, service and housekeeping staff and so on, including suppliers and locally sourced produce.

      they will not completly stop fishing in the region as a life style, just agree to keep one place as a no take zone.

      the focus is to start with something concrete that people can see. there are many instances of succesful protected area, but doesn't help with the local community as what they are interested is what is now, in their region.

      after a couple of years and witnessing first hand some improvement, then there is room for all of the above that you mentioned. but until then it is mostly intelectual concepts and ideas.

      they do have the responsability of protecting their assets, by policing the area from other areas.

      thanks for bringing thought into this.

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        Nov 5 2012: Hi Michel:

        Addressing you especific question, I would use the methaphore of a fruit tree and not a factory.
        Lets say an olive tree, if you cut it down you get some lumber but you loose the olives, the healthier the tree the more olives it produces, a well cared tree can produce olives for centuries, and so on...

        I would use a local equivalent of the olive tree of course.

        What do you think?


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    Nov 4 2012: Thank you for posting that and best wishes.

    Can you say who will be paying for the compensation fund? Is that the part that's new or if not may I ask you to say which part of this is new?
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      Nov 5 2012: a eco resort will provide the initial compensation, as a entrance fee to the area.

      the part that i think is new is the formulation of the fish factory, rather than using bank account analogy, or scientific explanation for a no take zone. it resonate better with the local community. the idea of no take zone is very mainstream in environment circle.

      the new could be that most of the funds goes to the bottom of the financial piramid, rather than having been funneled through the top, where only drops usually get to the bottom end of the economic ladder.

      hope it answers the question.
  • Nov 1 2012: Common sense. This has been known many places. See Prescot in The Conquest of Mexico and Peru. The Aztecs would protect no hunting areas to do what is proposed. These areas could later be harvested.
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      Nov 1 2012: i agree it is common sense and done before. but you would be surprised how hard it is to convince some people of the obvious.
      the idea is not new, but what i am trying to research is new formulations of concepts that resonate with specific local cultures,
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        Tao P

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        Nov 4 2012: I read of this in David Suzuki's 'Good News For A Change'. An ocean sanctuary off of New Zealand and the fish came back faster than anyone predicted.
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          Nov 5 2012: there are many instances where the concept of no take zone have proven successful. the chalenges is usually the specifics of a particular region, in this instance a area that was throughout history was a pirate hub, where opportunistic behaviours are the norm, corruption institutionalised, and future visions based on common sense good topics of conversations with little effect on the daily life.
          the first mind set to get out is this:
          if i don't take it, someone else will.

          and hard to convince anyone of the opposite. part of the big planetary mess we are in.

          thanks for your mind/time/energy