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James Zediana

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Where did we come from?

I started several debates in TED and results are evolution can't be proven. SHORT OF CREATION and EVOLUTION is there another option?

I believe this is a fundamental question to be answered.

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    Oct 9 2012: I don't believe that there is another option.

    I believe that the answer isn't either/or but both. Evolution is a creative process. What drives it can be reduced to a cosmic singularity known as the unified field theory.

    Creation claims that there is a God, but says nothing about how God creates. Evolution says there are processes that are involved in creating the known universe, but says nothing about God except to deny that there is a God. Such denial of God stems from the religious conception of God as a male deity, coupled with the notion of a young earth (taking Genesis literally). Both are incorrect.

    I don't believe that you can exclude either creation or evolution and come up with the right answer. Nor do I believe that there is yet an alternative answer. Yet there are problems on both sides of the fence that can't be ignored if you want to know the truth.
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      Oct 9 2012: But according to your thinking the idea of god becomes a what and not a who. Correct?
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      Oct 12 2012: I have no idea where you people keep coming up with this God idea. The question is searching for answers to the ultimate question. I debated evolution and there were no answers. I phrased the question to leave God out and everyone jumps on that as an answer. So far the only answers are there is no answer or we came from aliens.
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        Oct 13 2012: James,
        You used the word creation in your question. In the religious sector, creation is synonymous with creationism. Creationism is the belief that God created the universe. That is why the word God keeps coming up in your topic. You also used the term "intelligent design" in your listed topics which is directly associated with the notion of a God.

        Evolution is an alternative to creationism, but is incomplete. I don't know how you could come to any conclusions in a short TED topic when the ideas have been debated since Darwin with no resolution.

        The fact that something can't be proved doesn't mean it isn't so. Evolution is still in its infancy. And intelligent design is based on the ineffable mystery which has no means of expression other than in the end result.

        Are you aware of atomic structure. No one knows why there is such a structure, they only know what rules it follows. By the same token, spiritual experience isn't something that you can prove to anyone else. The experiences that we perceive are often in a format that is impossible to explain to anyone who has never shared such an experience.
        We know that dogs can distinguish the scent of a single human from all others. But short of watching the dog doing it, no one can explain how the dog is able to do it because we cannot share in the experience. We can only propose the explanation that human scent must all be different and that the dog's senses are keener than ours. But that explanation is only given because we can see the dog doing it. We cannot see another person's spiritual experience, so we are incapable of explaining how or if such a thing is possible. You have to experience it before you can accept that it could be so.

        Where did we come from requires answers that are just starting to come into focus. And I believe that evolution and intelligent design are not isolated from one another. But the current definition of God is wrong.

        I don't believe we came from aliens.
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          Oct 15 2012: Good points! I guess the next question I pose will explain alot of this.

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