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existence of god (why religion is the answer)

today i had a conversation with a friend about religion ,god,quantum physics and forbidden archaeology .
the real question was ,does god exist ,if yes then why he created the universe ,was he bored ? religion can not give us satisfactory answer !
also religion is some thing very new , comparing it with human existence (forbidden archaeology) .
who created the universe ? is it better to believe that god created it instead of no one .(if we say god created it then the question is ,with what ?)

sorry for my english :(
one more thing ,please do some research on forbidden archaeology before replaying .

Topics: Existence of God creation of universe forbidden archaeology quantum physics religion and science
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  • Sharon McCann 10+

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    Oct 1 2012: Separately from the answers regarding the presence or absence of god, is the issue that religion is a man made social construct. It provides rituals of passage, relief from uncertainty, social cohesion and sanctified norming. However, it is often a terrible influence as people sue it to control populations and enhance political ambitions.

    I am always careful to differentiate clearly between religion and spirituality. Humans need spirituality, we appear to be hard wired for it, however, religion we can do without.
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      Theodore A. Hoppe 200+

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      Oct 2 2012: Can you point to a reference to support a claim that we appeared "hard wired" for it?
      There was recent research that pointed to an analytic brain rejecting the notion of a religion even in devour believers:

      The study, published April 12, 2012 in the journal Science, finds that thinking analytically increases disbelief among believers and skeptics alike, shedding important new light on the psychology of religious belief. "Our goal was to explore the fundamental question of why people believe in a God to different degrees," says lead author Will Gervais, a PhD student in UBC's Dept. of Psychology. "A combination of complex factors influence matters of personal spirituality, and these new findings suggest that the cognitive system related to analytic thoughts is one factor that can influence disbelief."

      Read more at: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-04-analytic-decrease-religious-belief.html#jCp

      Even spirituality causes some mental gymnastics: where does this spirit interface with our physical being? Spirit is often confused with mind and consciousness but I have reservations about any concept that provides for us to retain an identity shaped in this material realm.

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        Oct 2 2012: I was looking for a good link other than Andrew Newberg, but right now I cannot put my finger on the name of the books about our "god" part of our brain that responds to mediation and the experiments that show when certain parts of our brain are stimulated we think we have had a contact with a higher power.

        Apparently humans feel better when they do this series of actions that tend to surround religion (repetative chanting, prostration, rituals etc) regardless of the belief system to which they subscribe. The sense of having connected to the larger universe is important in people's well being and is physically good for them. Hence the focus on developing spirituality rather than religion.

        One of the better introductions is on a Morgan Freeman Through the Wormhole Show
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          Theodore A. Hoppe 200+

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          Oct 3 2012: Ok, have you listened to the TEDTalk by the neuroscientist Jill Taylor Bolt? She discusses a first hand account of what happens to the left and right hemispheres during a stoke, and how the consciousness of the right hemisphere seems to be the spiritual side, I underline "seems".
          http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

          But, this sensation is also disputed by V S Ramachandran, who speaks about cases where the corpus callosum is severed,creating a split brain.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFJPtVRlI64

          VS Ramachandran explains the case of split-brain patients with one hemisphere without a belief in a god, and the other with a belief in a god. (Clip taken from talk at 2006 Beyond Belief Conference, link below)

          Link to Ramachandran's full talk (about 39 minutes into the video):
          http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/beyond-belief-science-religion-reason-a...
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          Obey No1kinobe 50+

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          Oct 7 2012: Don't you mean parts of our brain are active when we think that we are in contact with some supernatural realm?

          We can not tell if there is actual contact.

          I note when people dreams or children have imaginary friends we don't assume these to be real in the physical sense even though the brain is actively imagining these things.

          Something is going on it our brain when I meditate and I'm an atheist. The benefits or experience may be real, but the interpretations are often very subjective.
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          Roy Bourque 20+

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          Oct 10 2012: Sharon,
          The following link describes the distinction between how the right hemisphere of the brain differs from the left, how the two relate, and what has happened in recent times. Hope this is of help.
          www.ted.com/talks/iain_mcgilchrist_the_divided_brain.html
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      Obey No1kinobe 50+

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      Oct 4 2012: I dont need supernatural superstitious spirituality. Both religion and individual spirituality are subjective with unverifiable beliefs at heart.

      • Sharon McCann 10+

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        Oct 7 2012: Exactly. What I mean is that the parts of our brain that are active when we mediate (or engage in the rituals that are often related to spiritual actvities tend to relate to the loss of our sense of our physical place in the universe. Most people report a sense of oneness with the larger universe. HOw this is interpreted in entirely individual.

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