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An open, facebook-integrated instant global democracy

As of today, the world's first truly open facebook-integrated global instant democracy is a reality. Unlike other voting systems online - reddit and ted.com comments etc. - it's not about voting on the opinions. It's about voting on their subjects.

Why are subjects important? Because for the first time we can actually say what someone's opinion is really about. And group votes for or against those subjects. It makes no sense to vote for a hashtag but voting for or against subjects that share hashtags makes a race - and a whole new kind of democracy.

This kind of democracy is a Facebook game that turns voting into a social act. When people go into some dark room and pull a lever or press a button you've got all that BS about hanging chads and who watches the watchmen and lobbyism and so on. But when everyone's opinions on every subject are open and public - when everyone's votes can be counted by everyone - that's a democracy you can trust.

Right now this is alpha software, brand spanking new, without a lot of important content. But if you care about democracy, if you can stand up for or against something - if something really matters to you from cafeteria lunches to the way your taxes are spent - this new way to argue and win or lose an argument is the way forward.

We waste opinions all over the internet - they can't count if we don't count them. But try http://www.doshmosh.com and speak your mind. Pick a side. Make a choice. Take a stand. Connect to the people who feel the same way you do - take power back from the bureaucrats and share it with the people you trust - your friends.

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Closing Statement from Peter Merel

The feedback here has been very helpful. In particular Pavlin Angelov's criticism of the funding model has caused us to rethink it. We're moving it to become more in line with the Google Adsense/Adwords model. Thanks to everyone for your comments.

If you'd like to learn more there's a deeper and saltier discussion of the way DoshMosh works at http://dudespaper.com/dudeism-the-first-religion-with-a-moshpit.html/ .

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    Oct 7 2012: I don't see how it is different from reddit except in packaging/presentation. The underlying logic and functionality seems to be the same. Topics are voted on in redit in that popular topics make it to the front page.

    Also, like the other leaderless online systems I have seen, there seems to be no capacity anywhere for the production of complicated documents reflecting a compromise between various view points. A democracy that can't do that isn't much of a democracy. I have an alternative model which retains the category of representatives a distinct from voters but puts them under a nuch stricter regime of accountability- Real Time Mandate, no coding done on it, writing a book about it first. Watch this space. http://austingmackell.wordpress.com/democracy-without-elections/ - link to a more detailed exposition.
    • Oct 8 2012: Hi Austin, thanks for visiting.

      Reddit lets you vote up a submission on a topic until it hits a subreddit front page, but it doesn't tag subjects or compare subjects by category as DoshMosh does. Furthermore on Reddit only users and opinions can have karma where on DoshMosh subjects have karma per category.

      So on Reddit you may vote on one of many pages about Citizen Kane. But after a while that page will slide down the rankings. You can't vote for the subject $Citizen-Kane as, say, a #black-and-white #movie. Or as an #Orson-Welles #script - which as a different context we score separately. And we can vote for $Orson-Welles as a #director as distinct from as an #American #Actor ... without the ability to distinguish subject and categories in an opinion, Reddit votes can never contribute to preferring one subject over another.

      Which is as it should be - Reddit is a news aggregation site, not a democracy like DoshMosh.

      Another significant difference is that Reddit doesn't implement social voting. When you vote on Reddit, your vote is invisible to people who vote the same way you do. Connecting people who vote the same way, and permitting people to filter out those who vote differently on their preferred subjects and categories enables DoshMosh to maintain a plurality of views, not just one. Think cantons and sub-cantons.

      DoshMosh can link opinions to and from any external page to form an arbitrarily complex document out of subject and category tags. In Beta, DoshMosh will field an API to enable closed communities to do this, and provide an aspect-oriented view of external content too.

      Now I see nothing a representative can do that DoshMosh can't. Obviously it lacks governance conventions to finalise or enforce outcomes. That's by intent - governance assumes franchise, and DoshMosh neither prefers nor enforces same.

      Interested in your books, but to my way of thinking technology changes the world. Books are theoretical, perhaps beautiful, but lacking effect.

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