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John Moonstroller


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Which came first, the chicken or the DNA.

Evolution for TED dummy's 101.

"Abiogenesis is the study of how biological life could arise from inorganic matter through natural processes. In particular, the term usually refers to the processes by which life on Earth may have arisen". ~ wikipedia.

We are seeking to demonstrate how the process got started and how it continued to function, leading to the first single cell animal capable of replicating itself and became more complex by forces of nature impinging on its structure.

We must: (with citations included)
1. Establish the basic conditions for life to form from scratch;

2. Detail the reactions necessary to create the most primitive form of life.

3. Detail how those reactions contributed to the development of a mechanism that led to single cells capable of replicating their selves.

4. Demonstrate how evolutionary forces (dynamic conditions of environment) continues to impact all complex forms of life inducing them to evolve to more complex lifeforms.

This is not a debate about how gods or aliens created life on our planet. It is a demonstration of how an evolutionary process can establish a primitive from of life that ultimately evolves into a single cell animal that is capable of replication. This is done to answer the basic question implied by the question above.

Citations are required. Posts should follow the order of
Suggestion, Demonstration, Citation.
Followed by commentary reply's to support, alter or delete each suggestion.

This is a challenge to indirectly make the case that using the Internet, we can cooperatively work out solutions to the most complicated of problems without demeaning ourselves in the process.

If you don't have a profile, please don't comment because we have no way to weigh your argument. The formats must be in a context to enlighten the most uninformed of minds on TED. PM me if you have questions, to avoid clutter.


Closing Statement from John Moonstroller

Well, I'm convinced that most of the commenters Just don't get it, then wonder why people take them out of context and or just can't understand the why to got that response.

Even if you give directions, most of the TED crowd will fail to follow directions and get it wrong.
Perhaps they are too much into what they want to say instead of what needs to be said.

I'm also convinced they have no friends who are employees of Wallymart.

Most TEDsters are 0010-110-0101-0101 111-0010 000-0000-00-1.

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    Sep 27 2012: Nether the chicken or the DNA came first but the idea. I think that makes better sense than trying to contemplate what came first. You could find Nobel Prize winning work on RNA and DNA discoveries. Scientists now have created XNA which I'm not %100 comfortable with. In natural life on Earth, the nucleic acids DNA and RNA are formed by sugar molecules — deoxyribose in DNA and ribose in RNA — that link to phosphates to form a backbone onto which the four nucleotide bases attach to form a chain.Reading guys like Edwards' post make me think a defensive stance is taken when not all that necessary. We shouldn't look at things as absolutely right or wrong. Isaac Asimov' Relativity of Wrong may be lengthy but illustrates a great point in my opinion.
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      Sep 27 2012: It all makes sense to me.... what is deoxyribose?
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        Sep 27 2012: C_5 H_10 O_4
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          Sep 27 2012: Gee Justin you are one smart person.. ;)

          That almost looks like Morse code to me. ;)
          000 10 1011 11 1111 010 0 < can you decipher this?

          That's how your chemical formula looks to the average person. ;)

          That's an actual Morse code message if you can decipher it you will get my message.

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