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"Judge denies actress' bid to remove anti-Islam film" Would the judgment be the same if it was an anti-Jewish film?

It is beginning to appear as if as a nation we are becoming skewed in our judgments. Skewed by our hatred of one and guilt around the other..

The propagation of hatred seems to be permissible when we as a culture hate strongly enough that we feel that our hatred is completely justified. The Germans felt the same way toward the Jews. Shall we blindly succumb to the same ugliness?

We have violated their territory, killed their people and demeaned their religion under the false pretense of Weapons of Mass Destruction.

How would we behave if they were occupying the USA for ten years behaving as we have been behaving in the Middle East while realizing that we do have many Weapons of Mass Destruction?

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  • Sep 22 2012: "Would the judgment be the same if it was an anti-Jewish film?"

    Yes, Youtube is an American company and American law allows the publication of "anti-Jewish" material.
    • Sep 22 2012: Do you think that this would then be considered anti-Semitic?
      • Sep 22 2012: What? The anti-Jewish material? It depends on the content of the material and it really doesn't matter for the verdict because American law does not censor anti-Semitic material.

        "Laws prohibiting hate speech are unconstitutional in the United States;"

        There you go.

        "Defamation"

        Usually relates to persons, not religions

        and...

        "In Common Law it is usually a requirement that this claim be false"

        Which means religious groups cannot call on anti-defamation laws and even people cannot sue someone for calling them a "Jew" (because it's factually true).

        Neo-Nazi rallies are legal in the United States.

        Also, I don't understand where you're trying to go with this. Anti-semitism is racism, it is not the same as offending Muslims, anti-Judaism is the same as offending Muslims, but anti-semitism is not. Anti-semitism is directed at people of Jewish ethnicity, who could be atheists or even Muslims. There is no Islamic ethnicity, only an Islamic religion.

        What Fritzie is trying to say is that the anti-defamation league (which is not affiliated with the government) may want to ban anti-semitic material but they cannot, all they can do is name and shame perpetrators and hope that that will be enough to make them back now.
        • Sep 22 2012: You may check the following material and see if you still believe that anti-Semitic material is above the law.

          United States
          In the United States, hate speech is protected as a civil right (aside from usual exceptions to free speech, such as defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words).[55] Laws prohibiting hate speech are unconstitutional in the United States;
          Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation a negative or inferior image. This can be also any disparaging statement made by one person about another, which is communicated or published, whether true or false, depending on legal state. In Common Law it is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).[1]
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        Sep 23 2012: John and David are correct in their interpretation. The laws in the United States are different than in other countries. The limits on free speech are construed very narrowly.
        • Sep 23 2012: Anti-Defamation League
          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is an international non-governmental organization based in the United States. Describing itself as "the nation's premier civil rights/human relations agency", the ADL states that it "fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, defends democratic ideals and protects civil rights for all" while it "[advocates] for Israel [...] with policymakers, the media and the public" and "defends the security of Israel and Jews worldwide".[1][2
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        Sep 23 2012: Of course the Anti-defamation league fights anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry. And there are myriad other organizations too, large and small, that speak out against hate of all kinds.
        • Sep 23 2012: My point was,

          "Judge denies actress' bid to remove anti-Islam film" Would the judgment be the same if it was an anti-Jewish film?

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