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John Moonstroller


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Is Atheism just another cult, with their own dogma, like religious cults?

Is Atheism just another cult, like a religious cult, with people who believe there is no god, and in most cases also that what is presented by science is the absolute truth? Do people of an Agnostic persuasion believe, atheists have a blind faith in science, believing what they show, and measure is the last word about reality; believing that this Science supports their side of the debate while excluding the Religious view.

Those in the middle of the God/No God debate (Agnostics) have stated that such a claim is delusional and is indicative of cult mentality on par with religious cultism. It requires blind belief God does not exist which is dogmatic because there is no proof (currently) that is acceptably to the Agnostic crowd that God is or is not. Agnostics see the gaps in Scientific knowledge and try to keep an open mind pertaining to spiritual ideas and their connection to the real world. They have sometimes been accused of creating the Scientific idea of Creationism which has gathered steam in the last decade or so. Being in the middle, They are attacked by both sides of the debate, as will be demonstrated in this debate question.

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"Is Atheism just another cult, with their own dogma, like religious cults?"

“The word cult in current popular usage usually refers to a new religious movement or other group whose beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre.[1] The word originally denoted a system of ritual practices. The word was first used in the early 17th century denoting homage paid to a divinity and derived from the French culte or Latin cultus, ‘worship’, from cult-, ‘inhabited, cultivated, worshipped,’ from the verb colere, 'care, cultivation'.” ~ Wikipedia

“Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization” ~ Wikipedia.

Organizations of atheists ritually denounce the existence of God. They have become an organization, dedicated to the activity of removing all relic’s of Theism from public places. Their dogma is based entirely on their notion or belief that God does not exist. These organizations work tirelessly towards this effort.

It is no longer possible for an individual to simply state they are an atheist, by reason of personal belief, and not be affiliated, by membership or indirect alignment with these organizations.

These organizations have an official system of belief and their doctrine is to end the belief of theism on this planet.

They are exclusive, ritualistic, and have a belief system which generates activity within and beyond the boundaries of the organization. They are a Cult.

Not everyone agrees with this interpretation but the meaning of words evolve over time. To be an Atheist is to believe in a dogma and be a member of a club or organization. In the least, an individual is indirectly aligned with these clubs or organizations by belief or personal assertion they are an atheist.

John Moonstroller

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    Sep 29 2012: Hi John.

    My concern with the whole debate is that one side has no evidence and the other side is expected to disprove something that cannot be seen or heard, and cannot in anyway be proven to exist, let alone not exist!

    Logic will always fail when faced with blind faith.

    Thus to even the field - I eagerly await a single piece of evidence from the theist camp..

    Disproving something, even something concrete is known to be extremely difficult which is why theists fall to this rather than admitting there is actually no evidence what-so-ever.

    For me I really don't mind what people want to believe and whether they want just belief or something where evidence and experiment are required. I do however have many issues with organised religion from indoctrination (teach kids it's just a belief and expose them to science!) to the petty rules (this being created the entire universe and everything in it, but care about the direction you face when you pray, or whether you eat pork, or whatever... really?). That is however a separate issue to whether you belief in some supreme being or beings or not. This does often muddy the waters, many theists vehemently defend their religion rather than theism and many atheists are much more concerned with issues around organised religion than pure atheism vs. theism.
    Maybe that could be your next question..
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      Sep 29 2012: That's not entirely true Kevin. The story of Jesus, and Buddha, and other religious figures in the literature, did, or there is the strong possibility, that they existed.

      So if someone, a human being who was actually spoken to by this God, then were is the proof to dispute them?

      If I told you I was personal friends with Michio Kaku and gave him the idea about string theory, would you believe me? You wouldn't have evidence one way or the other. So that's the big kicker in this whole debate.

      We all have this notion that there is more to us than just a body and a brain. We feel there is something else that set us off from the rock or the insect and not just mass and energy.

      What if the soul is actually a connection to another dimension? We don't know, science doesn't know and Atheists truly don't know anything. No one knows if the soul exists.

      No, this whole argument boils down to do we believe those who made these claims or not.

      All of religion on the general scale is a belief system. The atheists have no way to get around this. In some religion they are convinced that God is talking to them today and if God is not talking to you, what does that tell you about "your" relationship with God? How do you argue with this?

      It's hard to find anyone who has not been indoctrinated by some form of region to give a really good control sample. The only guy I knew was in India, in a very remote village and when his dad started teaching him about the village gods, he went on a search into the mountains and apparently, God not only spoke to him but gave him a mission. He is an evangelist today and that is his story. He is also one very smart cookie and you wouldn't think he would given over to fairy tales.

      It's a belief system based on some facts given long ago. On the flip side, what is the fact that Athirst is based on? Nothing... it's just the anti-thesis of Theism

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