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Henry Tugbiyele

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Are Feminists just pursuing their shadows? Or what they need is just new Light....

I have studied feminism and their actions and seen that they are only pursuing their own shadows. I found out that feminists don't fight for equal rights with men as they say, but they actually want to be "higher" than men. It is seen in their rebellious quest to retaliate and over-power men. I think what they need to understand is that "equality" does not exist! All that happens is that men and women are both given different roles to contribute to life...... The problem is WOMEN SEE THEIRS AS INFERIOR. All they need is a new light to see this. Or what do you think?

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    Sep 22 2012: Feminists generally agree that there should be gender equality, but they don't necessarily agree on what is female and male human nature, nor on what exactly our policies should be in order to combat gender discrimination.

    Feminism which aims at gender equality is laudable and reasonable; but the 'resenter feminists' or 'radical feminists' whose main agenda is male-bashing, are giving feminism a bad name.
    • Sep 22 2012: Its very true Anjorin! Thanks for that contribution.... I know they seemingly say that but I don't think they mean it!
  • Sep 26 2012: We tend to forget that the 'game' and the 'gamer' are not distinct, iow feminism shaped a new type of a woman. Is it good or bad, i have no idea, most likely both or neither, which is pretty much the same. But i don't think that anybody is in control. Feminism is not standing apart from other processes, which are currently in place, nothing is. Maybe the only thing that can bring balance eventually is to stop fighting, let it go and stop adding oxygen to the fire, exactly what we are doing right now :)

    I am a woman, i don't feel superior, inferior or equal to a man; simply the very idea of comparison has never crossed my mind.
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    Sep 22 2012: Reading explanation above seems , women who are fighting for thier rights are considered as "Feminist"....Are not there men as well who are also fighting for the same reason? How they will be then coined as?
  • Sep 22 2012: "I have studied feminism and their actions and seen that they are only pursuing their own shadows. I found out that feminists don't fight for equal rights with men as they say, but they actually want to be "higher" than men."

    That's your opinion. Many feminists are on record saying they support equal rights, and nothing more and even if there were 100 feminists on the record saying otherwise you can't use that to condemn all feminists because it's not a unified movement.
    • Sep 22 2012: I welcome and embrace your Idea and thoughts Smith! Thanks for the contributions....
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    Sep 22 2012: its not true that most women see themselves as inferior. Men see them as inferior. if not why would you use the phrase - " higher than men" ?
    I am a woman and man is NOT my parameter.
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      Sep 22 2012: I agree with you that few women see themselves as in inferior to men except in narrow categories like how much weight they can press. However, I do not think one can say that men in general see women as inferior. This varies among cultures and within cultures among men.
      • Sep 22 2012: Well Noted! Just like what Reisner said, it differs among Cultures...... That's really True! Thanks for that but I think my point is the case in my region.... And Yes with no doubt, men (not all though but a lot) see women as inferior; bring the phrases of religion to play!
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          Sep 24 2012: That would annoy the hell out of me!

          You double posted. (;
    • Sep 22 2012: Well Noted! Just like what Reisner said, it differs among Cultures...... That's really True! Thanks for that but I think my point is the case in my region.... And Yes with no doubt, men (not all though but a lot) see women as inferior; bring the phrases of religion to play!
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      Sep 24 2012: But some feminists do and seem to see it as a competition. Btw, what would you think if I made a generalisation like that about all women?
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    Sep 21 2012: The whole subject is a specious meme.
    • Sep 21 2012: Yes Pat! Its all a specious meme. Life is also a specious meme.... Even the idea of rights or wrong is..... But there is always an adopted meme..... Your idea of the whole subject is well embraced.....
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        Sep 21 2012: I should clarify the whole subject with regard to the U.S. now.
  • Sep 21 2012: in my view the feminist movement got polarized too far, with the women who only wanted more respect in their homes being bad and the ones who wanted everything men had +1 more thing being good.

    This being said in Canada and the USA I honestly believe there is no need for feminism (as a social movement) anymore. In fact I hear about all these education grants and burseries being put in place in order to encourage women to do non traditional roles, or the worst I heard of was one that was for women who where going into the advancement of womankind, in my view this is deeply sexist and these types of deals need to be converted from sex-based to income-based (same with ones that rely on race).
    • Sep 21 2012: Yes Scott! It has become too polarised! And its becoming a sexist movement.... Their intentions are biased and wrong.... Feminist don't actually want equality... Cos it can never come in the context of their fight and comprehension, we need to redefine equality and may be remove the words "male and female" and maybe it wld solve d problem!
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    Sep 20 2012: I think that it's utterly ludicrous and stupid to say that any group of people have a specific "role" assigned to them from birth, especially just because of their gender.
    • Sep 21 2012: Yes it is indeed!
    • Sep 21 2012: That's why equality would never exist because we are cannot be doing the same thing..... Equality/inequality is mans creation of his perception towards the fulfillment of desires. Its all self based..." Roles from birth" are creations of society norms and values/vices. So yes! But we just have to create equality as d embracing of each others self roles in life- which ever role they pick or seem to play. And nor neglecting anothers'!
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        Sep 21 2012: I may have took what you said out of context. If you're saying the roles that women have traditionally taken shouldn't be considered inferior then I agree. I also agree that a certain group of feminists are doing their cause no favours at all by looking down on women that do choose to take those roles and thinking that feminine behaviour is somehow a weakness. It's ironic that they call themselves feminists. They're masculinists!

        And reverse sexism is still sexism, same as reverse racism. I hate that companies are forced to employ a certain percentage of women and minorities, but racism and sexism do still exist so maybe it's necessary. It's still annoying though. Non-white women must have a really unfair advantage because they tick two boxes. It should be the best person for the job.
        • Sep 22 2012: I could read your expression when u said they are masculinists *smiles* . Yeah! U got my point! That's exactly it! Have you read this article from Anne MarieSlaughter "why women still can't have it all!" You would love it! It starts with this "It’s time to stop fooling ourselves,
          says a woman who left a position of
          power: the women who have
          managed to be both mothers and top
          professionals are superhuman, rich,
          or self-employed. If we truly believe in
          equal opportunity for all women,
          here’s what has to change.". Thanks again for your contribution!
  • Sep 23 2012: You might want to read a friends thoughts on Feminism "Who are we by Giovanna Olmos". This is my response to Robin
    Morgan’s “Radical Feminism” and
    the first chapter of Betty Friedan’s
    book “The Feminine Mystique”
    called the “The Problem That Has
    No Name”.
    I find that Robin Morgan believes in a
    divided world in which men are the
    oppressors and women are the
    oppressed. Feminism is not a question
    about rearranging the system in which
    we relate to one another but about
    fighting for changes in the way that
    men relate with women. While the first
    wave of feminism was largely about
    gaining the state’s support, the second
    wave of feminism, while redirecting the
    focus to interpersonal relationships,
    seems to be about gaining males’
    awareness of and attention to the need
    for gender equality. While she stresses
    that women’s engagement is essential,
    I find that the responsibility lies quite
    extensively in the hands of men. This is
    evidence for polar thinking. To Morgan
    there appears to be men’s issues and
    women’s issues. The adherence to a
    binary is evident in her reflections on
    the lack of solidarity amongst women.
    Her protest against “[a]ll that fantastic
    energy going to fight each other
    instead of our oppression!” clearly tells
    me that the advocacy for women’s
    rights is women’s advocacy.
    Furthermore it does not appear that
    the attainment of gender equality is
    something that is co-created as much
    as it is realized through women, the
    unequal or socially defined “Other”,
    earning men’s, the equal and “Self’s”,
    awareness and recognition of the (their,
    women’s) issue’s urgency.
    ..... follow this
    Link to continue reading: voicesinhaled.tumblr.com/post/32098586217/who-are-we