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Casey Christofaris

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Is our math wrong? Is it our assumption of zero, or absolute nothingness?

There are know phenomena out there such as the gamma ray burst that total destroys(use loosely your ego wants to argue this syntax error not the mind) our current math and physics(e=mc2). But instead of saying well maybe we got a key part of our math wrong we make it so the phenomena matches our math. This is my personal take on what I think might be wrong. I think it has to do with our assumption of zero. Seeing how you can never have absolute nothingness as a base or starting point. Conceptually the idea of zero is great. I want an apple. But i am in a complete void of apples. I don't have a single one. Not even applesauce! I have ZERO apples. But I do not need to know that you have zero apples to know when you have 1 apple. On the other had I do need to know that you have 1 apple to understand that now you have 2 apple. I could be wrong. It just something that bothers me.

Also I am not a math person it has always been something I struggled with in school those pesky numbers. However in College I excelled at Logic, but that has been some time ago.

I am not say this is the answer I just say that I think there is something fundamentally wrong with our math


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    Oct 19 2012: I could not almost get you but I can understand that there is some stuffs you had noted.... I think basically you are trying to quantify "zero", if we quantify it. then the problem of zero will automatically gets solved... First of all in order to quantify something, if we know that basic(i.e.,least or minimum) value of number,by using that we can quantify all other numbers since it is the least the all other numbers may be successive addition or the multiplication of that basic number. Ok what is that least basic number?
    This least basic number can be found from any numbers may be by halving it(as I suggest...mostly division is used to find the least ratio) repeatedly, until it gets the least basic value which can not be further divided anymore. If you did it then ultimately the basic least value which we need to quantify all other numbers including zero is ZERO only. Literally the ZERO denotes the meaning nothingness. It means nothing.. This things also well related to the Quantum physics too i.e., the basic element of all the atoms, Dark energy and Dark matters... is now thought to be the God's particle which is almost a nothingness thing i.e., zero, but the very most basic thing from which all things are made to exist. I don't think so our math is wrong, the world still considering it as nothingness, but not the conclusion Its still working it out....
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      Oct 19 2012: Whats the base value of a human being? For we are one being divided up into 10 trillion other beings Zero can not be reached it can always be cut again, and again, and again. The higgs is just the smallest thing we can perceive and then that's a joke in its self, it is not man who perceives it but machine. Which we programmed to perceive it. Its a giant self fulfilling prophecy. Also everything is a self fulfilling prophecy as well as cause and effect, which just means balance, which just means one. There is no light with out darkness and no darkness with out light.


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