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Is our math wrong? Is it our assumption of zero, or absolute nothingness?

There are know phenomena out there such as the gamma ray burst that total destroys(use loosely your ego wants to argue this syntax error not the mind) our current math and physics(e=mc2). But instead of saying well maybe we got a key part of our math wrong we make it so the phenomena matches our math. This is my personal take on what I think might be wrong. I think it has to do with our assumption of zero. Seeing how you can never have absolute nothingness as a base or starting point. Conceptually the idea of zero is great. I want an apple. But i am in a complete void of apples. I don't have a single one. Not even applesauce! I have ZERO apples. But I do not need to know that you have zero apples to know when you have 1 apple. On the other had I do need to know that you have 1 apple to understand that now you have 2 apple. I could be wrong. It just something that bothers me.

Also I am not a math person it has always been something I struggled with in school those pesky numbers. However in College I excelled at Logic, but that has been some time ago.

I am not say this is the answer I just say that I think there is something fundamentally wrong with our math

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  • Oct 9 2012: I feel as though this conversation has reached a new point. Nobody can dispute that zero is useful.
    Now we can move on to the new topic our host Mr. Cristofaris has introduced which is:
    How can we create a number system which represents, "THE TRUTH"

    i would like to begin with a question of: "How do you define the truth pertaining to zero's and negative number's nonexistence, Mr. Cristofaris? More specifically, why aint zero nor -#s true?"
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      Oct 9 2012: David,

      When and where did I ever say that zero is not useful or math, I think you need to re-read the question. I am not say that math or zero is not useful. It just does not need to be the start of our current math system. As defined as nothing, no thing, or even a starting place holder.

      We would in theory need to revert back to cave man math, they realized that every thing is an individual representation of the whole. There are no 2 exact things in nature, for they would also have to take up the same space time. We categorize things to make it easier for the brain to compute, however there are not 7,000,000,000 people on this planet. What there is is 7 billion individual representation of what is people. (would I want to do this math no). Also if you want to use math to represent the same thing as 1 and also as inifinty here's a video.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLkou8NvJo

      Which all equals 1 even infinity its self.

      Also the only truth is perspective. We can create conventions of what we agree is close to a standard of what equals truth. But it is not truth.
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        Oct 9 2012: "Also the only truth is perspective. We can create conventions of what we agree is close to a standard of what equals truth. But it is not truth."

        Is your statement something that we could agree is close to a standard of what equals truth?
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          Oct 9 2012: I don't know I would need to know where you are going with this, I would say its closer to there is no "absolute" truth. For all things are both true and false based on perspective.

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