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What are the best and worst laws and practices of your region/state/country
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Scott Koenraadt
Its getting so that you can't have a drink after work, or go to a friends house and have one or two.
I totally agree with it in a urban setting, but in the rural setting where I am from there is no public transit or anything like that.
Chris Cavalari
He's 24. I don't see him much, but if I did, I guess I'd say, don't drink and drive. This time he crashed into someone in a parking lot and a kid was in the car. I've been to jail also, but not for drinking and driving. I met a guy in there, in county jail, awaiting sentence for drinking and driving. He hit a lady in her car, and her teenage daughter is no longer with us. He payed a lawyer thousands of dollars, and was hoping for a minimal sentence. I read in the paper after I got out that he got 5 years. Hey, the child's dead. He was a nice guy. We watched baseball. One or two shouldn't be over the blood alcohol content limit. Fifteen or twenty are, or two nice huge glasses of booze by a friendly barkeep. I've gotten pulled over a few times drunk and let go. Good cops know who's okay and who isn't. I don't know the breathalyzer limit in canada, but I find your one or two claim a little dubious. One or two isn't going to get anyone a driving while intoxicated charge in my neighborhood.
Scott Koenraadt
Jimmy Strobl 50+
We have among the fewest fatal driving accidents in the world/capita.
Over here we solve it by having a designated driver, taking public transport, a taxi or simply staying the night. There is no justification for raising the risks of killing someone because you have the urge for a drink and haven't planned that out fully.
When driving, your reaction time, observation skills and judgement are crucial for making split-second decisions, these are all lowered by drinking. And being drunk isn't an on/off switch.
pat gilbert 100+
What is legal limit on marijuana?
Jimmy Strobl 50+
But yeah, that comes to .02%
There is zero tolerance (in law) for marijuana here in Sweden.
pat gilbert 100+
Ok it is called per-mille which means parts per thousand
according to the link
.2 per mille = .2/1000 = .0002
I think you meant 20 per-mille which would be .02
But I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong.
http://rapidtables.com/math/number/Per_mille.htm
Jimmy Strobl 50+
In Swedish it's just "promille".
Chris Cavalari
Probably don't even know what day it is.
John Smith 30+
Pat, please don't go the slippery slope route. If you say taking away a person's freedom to drunk drive and get people killed in the process automatically leads to a police state then I'm gonna say allowing people to drive drunk automatically leads to Lord Of The Flies anarchy.
There are no mitigating circumstances in drunk driving, on average it will result in more damage than shoplifting and it is only because of cultural reasons that people think it's the other way around.
pat gilbert 100+
Jimmy Strobl 50+
It makes clear sense, as you say you can't have a single drink and they have very large (and quite successful) campaigns advising against even driving the next day. Been that way for some years so it's even a well rooted mentality among many.
People tend to cheat themselves with how drunk they are and the drunker they get the more they feel overconfident in their abilities to do just about anything, including driving.
pat gilbert 100+
So it is best to determine what the individual can or cannot do, in other words we will make that decision for you.
John Smith 30+
Based on medical research and the fact that you can kill other people in a car accident.
Jimmy Strobl 50+
It's not "Just one step above prohibition", of course people should be allowed to drink!!!
But people should not be allowed to put other innocent people in danger because of irresponsibility. And drinking and driving is doing just that.
And yes, laws are not written in cafes, they are written at the "top" and applied "down"-wards.
I don't really think that we have to worry about organized crime because people can't drink and drive.
chen xin
pat gilbert 100+
If it is not what would the next step be?
There are mitigating factors regarding drinking and the ability to drive and there is no absolute regarding doing so safely, certainly it is above 20 per-mille. The bigger threat to driver safety is incompetence which any actuarial will tell you.
The bigger point is that the government forcibly takes a liberty away from the individual in the name of, insert favorite rhetoric, when in reality it is by force.
The next step would certainly be prohibition in your country, that certainly caused organized crime in this country. Similarly making marijuana illegal in the U.S. has caused most of the organized crime in Mexico.