This conversation is closed. Start a new conversation
or join one »
What are the best and worst laws and practices of your region/state/country
Answer as many as you'd like.
Topics:
law
Closing Statement from Jimmy Strobl
Many great thoughts in this conversation, I wish that they still had open-ended Conversations...
I had fun, learned much!
Anyway, It's "impossible" to summarize it, sorry about that.
Wade Crum
Henry Woeltjen 10+
Our government uses so much rhetoric...it's very had to distinguish fact from fiction.
Another note is that policy is written in languages we cannot understand.
Although you may read and interpret these policies at will...there is no way for the average person to understand the implications of policy or law.
We are so caught up with careers, ipods, and relationships that I think we ignore government...and just complain when things don't work out.
Cherri Huang
JEFF D.
JEFF D.
JEFF D.
systems limiting potential in a state or city
Amgad Muhammad
Harro Penk
Every penny of every tax should be directly allocated to a particular program, a particular cause. This way, if they wanted to raise taxes or - just by chance - lower them, we would all know what's going on. It's a very basic, vital idea. Taxpayers should know exactly what happens to every cent, not just get graph of TAX IN >> TAX OUT like we do every year. Statements should be simple to follow, and politicians should stop playing with our taxes like it's fake Monopoly (c) money. I think this would go a long way towards fixing financial problems, especially in my state, plus - it would finally let politician do what they're supposed to do. Fix crisis and look out for our taxes. Stop playing board games with taxes.
chen xin
Andrew Young
Corn - by subsidizing corn it increases its value, which results in farmers growing more then what is necessary. What do we do with the extra corn, well we turn it into ethanol . There are more efficient and cheaper ways to make ethanol, but we now have an incentive to use corn because there's extra.
Fuel - With the cost of fuel so cheap people purchased large SUVs and drove everywhere. Current prices are reaching over 4 dollars a gallon, it still doesn't account for the damage to the environment or the cost of keeping the Navy active in the Middle East.
Electricity - In the state of Washington electricity is held below the market value. This makes it hard for renewable energy to compete because the average household is going to stick with whatever is cheaper and I don't blame them.
Kids - the US gives a tax break for each additional child you have. I don't think its right for the government to try and limit the number of kids a family has, but there shouldn't be a tax break on your third, forth or fifth kid. It rewards families for growing.
I don't suggest we cut subsidies off over night, the out come would be disastrous, but we need to start leaning ourselves off of them.
Chris Cavalari
Skye Kelly
Kids- for sure- about time we give incentives for fewer offspring. (harsh but true I think)
And then fuels/resources- that is my pet peeve- Europe for years has had a more realistic pricing for energy sources- and guess what- their economies didn't shrink (from that at least- only from poor lending practices they picked up from America) but people became WISER. In general I think these subsidies of "The American Way" are part of our downfall- and we need to relax them and tier them off to become more resilient and aware.
Henry Woeltjen 10+
The entire system is a horrible practice.
Theodore A. Hoppe 200+
Rarely do cases ever go before a jury of ones peers. Prosecutors plea bargain cases by coercing those that can't afford lawyer and this means that police forces decide who will be sent to jail and who won't not judges.
Search YouTube for "Tasers" to watch videos of how the police are treating Americans.
John Moonstroller 30+
Brooke England
As far as worst laws, Jamaica is highly homophobic, it is illegal to practice homosexuality down here, though it is increasing. All the time, homosexuals are stoned and beaten, sometimes killed, because most of us are raised with the mind set that different is awful (I get a lot of talk simply because I'm an atheist).
Bruno Carre
We already pay up to 55% taxes, which is ok with me because we have a great healthcare system. You don't have to be rich (or wait) to benefit from quality medical services.
But the inheritance taxes are also fairly high, it can amount to 30%.
So, it means if someone makes 100k a year, he will keep 45k. Should he decease, these 45k will be taxed again at a 30% rate.
Do the math, the money left is 31,5k...which means there's almost a 70% tax on income in some cases (starting from a certain amount of money left by the deceased, you wouldn't pay 30% on 45k but you get the picture). It's outrageous.
As for the best, Belgium is usually one of the first countries to adopt laws such as the right for abortion, same sex marriage, etc. That I'm proud of!
Greetings from Belgium,
Bruno
Chris Cavalari
Jimmy Strobl 50+
Chris Cavalari
Thought I was replying to his comment.
pat gilbert 100+
JEFF D.
people for the most part don't have a say in a hole lot of things the government decide to enforce. -that mainly affect those with no say. (the weak)
also the government doesn't necessarily care for the progress and well being of most of the population(a lot of it is self-desire, politics)
i understand people, may act dumb, or have wild believes that can affect society in negative ways, ---so they may not make right decisions if given the power to govern.
however the fact is 90% working population is not being heard, (AND EVEN IF THEY ARE HEARD THEY NOT BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY), virtually they don't have any power in things such as laws (and i believe even electing an president) in a FIRST world country such as the u.s.
you'll be surprise how much better the world can do, if people all around the world had a powerful say in politics, and the government, EVERYONE. on EVERYTHING.
Yuguo Zhang 100+
The best part? Well...you can pirate numerous songs, movies, books and update your phones so you won't have to pay for apps. (I guess that could be a "good" thing sometimes. But, as for the message it sets forth, it's still no good.)
John Moonstroller 30+
We have some pretty tough laws in Georgia, especially if it has to do with children. If you slap your kid you get slammed for assault, terrorizing your kid, using abusive language around a child, etc. They stack them up pretty high.
We keep a good eye on sexual predetors so we have some tough laws about that.
This is a good topic. I wonder if you would take a look at this link and see if it has any relevance to this question:
This is a link to a news article I read about a Minister now, a politician and government official who is trying to get someone killed that lives in the United States. Do you think such practices should be illegal and should our Ambassador take them to task about it? Should we place a bounty on his head?
Pakistan
Pak minister places $100,000 bounty for 'anti-Islam' film-maker
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Pakistan/Pak-minister-places-100-000-bounty-for-anti-Islam-film-maker/Article1-934188.aspx
Jimmy Strobl 50+
John Moonstroller 30+
Scott Koenraadt
Its getting so that you can't have a drink after work, or go to a friends house and have one or two.
I totally agree with it in a urban setting, but in the rural setting where I am from there is no public transit or anything like that.
Chris Cavalari
He's 24. I don't see him much, but if I did, I guess I'd say, don't drink and drive. This time he crashed into someone in a parking lot and a kid was in the car. I've been to jail also, but not for drinking and driving. I met a guy in there, in county jail, awaiting sentence for drinking and driving. He hit a lady in her car, and her teenage daughter is no longer with us. He payed a lawyer thousands of dollars, and was hoping for a minimal sentence. I read in the paper after I got out that he got 5 years. Hey, the child's dead. He was a nice guy. We watched baseball. One or two shouldn't be over the blood alcohol content limit. Fifteen or twenty are, or two nice huge glasses of booze by a friendly barkeep. I've gotten pulled over a few times drunk and let go. Good cops know who's okay and who isn't. I don't know the breathalyzer limit in canada, but I find your one or two claim a little dubious. One or two isn't going to get anyone a driving while intoxicated charge in my neighborhood.
Scott Koenraadt
Jimmy Strobl 50+
We have among the fewest fatal driving accidents in the world/capita.
Over here we solve it by having a designated driver, taking public transport, a taxi or simply staying the night. There is no justification for raising the risks of killing someone because you have the urge for a drink and haven't planned that out fully.
When driving, your reaction time, observation skills and judgement are crucial for making split-second decisions, these are all lowered by drinking. And being drunk isn't an on/off switch.
pat gilbert 100+
What is legal limit on marijuana?
Jimmy Strobl 50+
But yeah, that comes to .02%
There is zero tolerance (in law) for marijuana here in Sweden.
pat gilbert 100+
Ok it is called per-mille which means parts per thousand
according to the link
.2 per mille = .2/1000 = .0002
I think you meant 20 per-mille which would be .02
But I'm sure you will correct me if I'm wrong.
http://rapidtables.com/math/number/Per_mille.htm
Jimmy Strobl 50+
In Swedish it's just "promille".
Chris Cavalari
Probably don't even know what day it is.
John Smith 30+
Pat, please don't go the slippery slope route. If you say taking away a person's freedom to drunk drive and get people killed in the process automatically leads to a police state then I'm gonna say allowing people to drive drunk automatically leads to Lord Of The Flies anarchy.
There are no mitigating circumstances in drunk driving, on average it will result in more damage than shoplifting and it is only because of cultural reasons that people think it's the other way around.
pat gilbert 100+
Jimmy Strobl 50+
It makes clear sense, as you say you can't have a single drink and they have very large (and quite successful) campaigns advising against even driving the next day. Been that way for some years so it's even a well rooted mentality among many.
People tend to cheat themselves with how drunk they are and the drunker they get the more they feel overconfident in their abilities to do just about anything, including driving.
pat gilbert 100+
So it is best to determine what the individual can or cannot do, in other words we will make that decision for you.
John Smith 30+
Based on medical research and the fact that you can kill other people in a car accident.
Jimmy Strobl 50+
It's not "Just one step above prohibition", of course people should be allowed to drink!!!
But people should not be allowed to put other innocent people in danger because of irresponsibility. And drinking and driving is doing just that.
And yes, laws are not written in cafes, they are written at the "top" and applied "down"-wards.
I don't really think that we have to worry about organized crime because people can't drink and drive.
chen xin
pat gilbert 100+
If it is not what would the next step be?
There are mitigating factors regarding drinking and the ability to drive and there is no absolute regarding doing so safely, certainly it is above 20 per-mille. The bigger threat to driver safety is incompetence which any actuarial will tell you.
The bigger point is that the government forcibly takes a liberty away from the individual in the name of, insert favorite rhetoric, when in reality it is by force.
The next step would certainly be prohibition in your country, that certainly caused organized crime in this country. Similarly making marijuana illegal in the U.S. has caused most of the organized crime in Mexico.
Tibor V. Varga
I'm from Hungary and there are some tax related laws I really hate, but this is the one that disgusts me most... and I know it exists in many countries, but I also know that in some nice countries it is abolished or nonexistent.
Chris Cavalari
Jimmy Strobl 50+
Elizabeth Gu 30+
A few weeks ago, a man was caught because of this ridiculous law. He found the wallet while he was on the go. Rather than going to the police station, he kept it for a few hours until he finish working and reported a loss to a police officer, but after few minutes later, the owner of the wallet knew that he was keeping her stuff, and called him(she got his number through the police officer) and told him that she's going to accuse him of stealing something that doesn't belong to him. He explained that he's so many things to take care of at that time and told her that he’d give it back to her soon. But she was impatient, and called the police to accuse him. He got caught and the punishment was way too much for him to take. Then, if I find a wallet on the street when I’m really busy, I should ignore it, right? So that I wouldn’t get caught for stealing a wallet even though I was going to give it back to the owner. Provided that I ignored the wallet, then, it’s possible that someone would take the wallet intentionally to get some money from it and still wouldn’t get caught. Who’s going to report a loss to police officers voluntarily, then? People would be afraid of doing even a good thing for the owner in this case. Although the intention of law might be for public good, if it’s misapplied, what’s the point of it? As you can see from this case, if the owner is too hasty or tries to accuse an innocent person like him of stealing on purpose, people, especially bad people could use the law with wrong intention, don't you think?
Colleen Steen 500+
That woman who wanted to accuse the man of stealing because he kept the wallet longer than she thought necessary seems to be unreasonable, don't you think? I would have been grateful to get the wallet back!!!
EDIT:
Regarding comment below:
I thought that's what you were talking about Elizabeth.....I was reinforcing:>)
Elizabeth Gu 30+
That's what I'm talking about...! !!
John Moonstroller 30+
Harro Penk
We have active public figures ON VIDEO (and who knows how many times not on video) lament how people of other beliefs, non-believers (I guess they're different from "other religions"), gays, women, rape victims, etc. etc. should be physically or spiritually "damned, tortured, or cast out". This kind of nonsense needs to stop. If someone made a direct verbal assault against another person and made public threats, they would be arrested and prosecuted under terrorism laws. But if they do this same thing from an imaginary altar or while holding some kind of religious token in their fist, it's called "religious expression" or "religious freedom".
As Sam Harris once stated - "Religious tolerance" is a misnomer. Religious people, by definition, don't practice it but demand it at every turn from everyone around them. It should be called "intolerance".
Between THAT, and our politicians wanting to hug these people all the time. Don't know which practice is worse. The complete and utter suspension of common sense every time the word "religion" is invoked, or how our leaders drape themselves in it. Shameful, the whole lot of it.
Jimmy Strobl 50+
And it looks like the last and only christian party isn't going to get in to parliament next election.
I agree with everything you say and feel bad for you that you and many others have to suffer through this idiocracy.
eric rodgers
Colleen Steen 500+
I agree with much of what you write. I am all for acceptance of religions, religious beliefs and practices IF THEY DO NOT ADVERSLY IMPACT OTHER PEOPLE. I believe that we have tolerated practices that are NOT in any way beneficial to the whole of humanity. Abuse, and violation of human rights, which has been practiced under the guise of religions should NOT be tolerated in our global community. So perhaps we need to seperate our understanding of peaceful religious practices from abuse and violation of other's human rights?
I totally agree with you that "INtolerance" seems to be generated from WITHIN religious groups. When people encourage religious tolerance, I say "show me". Show me that those practicing a religion can be tolerant of others and not abuse and violate the rights of others. Let's all walk the talk! It feels very hypocritical to me, when we hear religious extremists/fundamentalists speaking about how loving they are, as they are chastising and/or abusing those who do not accept their beliefs.
Sergio Ortiz
Colleen Steen 500+
You don't know what you are doing? You are a human being? You make choices?
Harro Penk
Colleen Steen 500+
Many seemingly "benign" issues almost always impact many people.
John Moonstroller 30+
Harro Penk
Weak or nonexistent censorship of religious hatred ends up costing us in many ways, many more than I care to count or have the space to mention in this forum. Witness the $100,000 bounty issued yesterday by a politician of Pakistan for the head of one of our citizens. All this more than a week after the embassy attacks, and still every politician treads around "religious tolerance" and feelings. Leadership is leading, not following. They need to start sending the message, here and abroad, that any hate speech, and any physical violence, are not acceptable. Start here at home, and see where leadership will take us abroad. Until we stop dancing around basic issues of 6,000 year old dinosaurs and gay rights, we will never lead other countries out of their dark ages. It really is that simple.
Comment deleted
Jimmy Strobl 50+
John Moonstroller 30+
David Hamilton 50+
I think your question may have been part of my motivation for writing about my least favorite law however, "Stop and Frisk", in New York, where I used to live.
Jimmy Strobl 50+
How exactly does the "Stop and Frisk" law work in New York? And how is it in other states?
David Hamilton 50+
That's pretty much it, I would have very few laws... Water supplies, and air quality are knowns within a community however. We also know a lot of poison and harmful substances... Seems like we could define a line at which a corporation is participating in the willful injury of a community and it's citizens.
Also, I shouldn't have said unprovoked, I've actually been thinking about this a lot lately... but physical assault would be where I draw the line, it doesn't have to be unprovoked. You should be able to say anything to another human being, without fear of assault. Confrontations should be worked out through rational discourse.
If an argument turns into a fair fight however, and both people kept goading one another, I think you fall into a grey area, and that's where good local police and judges are important for stopping a perfectly nice person who had a bad day from being a non voting felon.
http://www.ted.com/conversations/13931/if_the_stop_and_frisk_law_in.html
Feyisayo Anjorin 50+
Colleen Steen 500+
I agree that environmental protection laws are important, and sometimes, we, as members of our communities need to speak up and encourage using the laws where appropriate. I found that to be true in my community. There were environmental protection laws in place for years that were being ignored. There needs to be communication between the various permitting boards, and we need to keep "reminding" people that there is a law.
I used to believe that because there were laws, everybody followed them!!! Not so!!! As a past member of the local permitting boards, and present member of the regional permitting board, I learned that the authorities need CONSTANT reminders to ENFORCE!!!
I've also noticed that depending on who is in office, influences the enforcement of the laws. We had a republican governor for awhile who got very friendly with Pres. Bush, and he "relaxed" the wetland rules and other environmental protection laws in our state.
The secretary of the Agency of Natural Resources here, is appointed by the governor, so depending on who our governor is at any time, we may see a difference in enforcement. If we do not know about this "stuff", people usually assume that because there is a law, everything is ok......not always so!
If we're not part of the solution, we're part of the problem, so I highly recommend being at least informed regarding these issues in our own areas of the world.
Feyisayo Anjorin 50+
It would seem as the system is indirectly telling petty thieves and pickpockets that "If you're going to steal, steal millions and billions"
Its as if the judiciary is for sale; all for the highest bidder's taking.
pat gilbert 100+
David Hamilton 50+
Jimmy Strobl 50+
John Moonstroller 30+
pat gilbert 100+
This state allows since 1972 collective bargaining for state employees, this law was signed by Jerry Brown the then and current governor. This has resulted in huge pay increases in salary and pensions. Which has resulted in business leaving in droves and currently 3 cities have declared bankruptcy because of the pensions. California was once the 5th largest economy in the world currently it is the 9th.
Calif has 12% of the population yet receives 1/3 of the welfare in the U.S. This is in large part because Calif in effect subsidizes illegal aliens which acts like a magnet for them. Which has metastasized into the work force, by giving immigrants an advantage over non subsidized labor.
It has been voted the worst state to do business in for 8 straight years, because of taxes and regulations.
Jimmy you might want to consider being a politician in California, of course you would have to ditch that baggage you call making a difference or morality, in Calif they would say those ideas are cute.
John Smith 30+
Isn't that the fault of the state though? They're the ones too incompetent to drive a hard bargain, unlike governments in other countries where the recent crisis has prompted public sector pay freezes that last for several years, can they blame the employees for being better at negotiating?
pat gilbert 100+
Also my theory is that when the economy is strong is when it will support this kind of socialism, when there is no revenue such onerous indulgences cannot be afforded.
It also points out the fundamental problem with the tyranny of a democracy.
But the employee pensions are driving the cities to bankruptcy at which point their pensions are in jeopardy. Is that everyone Else's fault?
John Smith 30+
pat gilbert 100+
The prison problem was caused by the prison guard union and their pensions. Why are their so many prisoners you ask, I'm glad you asked.
Because a proposition was passed in the mid 90's that said if you break break certain laws 3 times you go to jail for a longer time. This has caused some prisoners to go to jail for 25 years with the 3rd strike being shoplifting.
Also most of the prisoners are for drug offenses that would not be a crime in other countries.
But mostly Calif prisons cost way more than other states because of the prison guard union.30 years ago, 10% of the general fund went to higher education and only 3% went to prisons. Today, almost 11% goes to prisons and only 7.5% goes to higher education.
The legislators have set budgets that consume all of the revenue in good times of course there is short fall now.
Since Calif cannot print money there will have to be cuts and it will be bloody.
John Smith 30+
You said something was the most important problem while neglecting a host of bigger problems, that's glossing over.
"Because a proposition was passed in the mid 90's that said if you break break certain laws 3 times you go to jail for a longer time. This has caused some prisoners to go to jail for 25 years with the 3rd strike being shoplifting.
Also most of the prisoners are for drug offenses that would not be a crime in other countries."
Yup, but it's pathetic to blame prison guard unions for this instead of private prison corporations or just the sentiments of the general population.
"30 years ago, 10% of the general fund went to higher education and only 3% went to prisons. Today, almost 11% goes to prisons and only 7.5% goes to higher education."
And this proves the problem lies with prison guard unions how exactly?
"But mostly Calif prisons cost way more than other states [...]"
Where did you come up with that? Who says California's prisons spend more per prisoner? Prisoners in such liberal states as Texas and Florida don't cost any less, neither do prisoners in Belgium and Canada.
pat gilbert 100+
The connection is a correlation.
The cost comparison is in this report:
http://www.vera.org/download?file=3542/Price%2520of%2520Prisons_updated%2520version_072512.pdf
Calif cost per prisoner is 47k per year many states are in the 20-30k range
Calif spends 7 billion a year on prisons the closest state is N.Y. at 2.7 billion
David Hamilton 50+
For every dollar in Federal Income Tax, that California pays, the Federal government spends 1 dollar and 40 cents. So we give them a dollar, and take on 40 cents of debt (I think it might be more like 60 cents of debt now)... What does the federal government spend in California? Between 70 and 80 cents...
How much do they spend in New Mexico, where "Republicans" are in charge? 2 dollars, for every dollar of tax the people pay. Alabama? 1.71 MS? 1.80... New York... Where liberals are in charge, who want all the federal spending? 80 cents.
Do you see a theme emerging here? The Federal Government is taking money out of successful liberal states, and spending it in unsuccessful "Republican" states, in order to reduce unemployment and pretend "Republican" policy is working. If California was recieving 1.40 for it's dollar in tax, and 40 cents in debt, it would still be number five. So while I agree with you, that reducing government is the solution... I don't agree that collective bargaining is at fault. The fact we keep giving our money to the federal government to subsidize states that don't take care of their people... is what's at fault.
"Republican" states spend way money on social programs, than California does, they just tax us for it, rather than their own people.
http://taxfoundation.org:81/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sr139.pdf
pat gilbert 100+
David Hamilton 50+
Over the last decade that accounts for 1.28 trillion dollars leaving California, to fund campaigns in Arkansas, Nebraska, and Alabama. I mean, for the social welfare... they "hate" so much.
pat gilbert 100+
In my best Spock voice, but captain that is illogical.
David Hamilton 50+
16 Trillion, with a T, is the federal budget, i mean debt, thx John.... Very different topic of conversation. Obviously numbers, math, and facts confuse you.
Finally, what happened in the 80's when Reagan gave California it's money back? I think something interesting with computers happened...
Then, in 1994 when Clinton was running like 10% over budget... He gave California back 98 cents... Didn't a whole bunch of people, make a whole bunch of money? Something to do with computers... I think.
John Smith 30+
No, current federal spending is 3.8 trillion, GDP is 15.1 trillion, the deficit for 2013 is expected to be 0.9 trillion and the federal debt is 16 trillion.
Now I do believe that New York unfairly benefits from having Wall Street on its soil but California doesn't have such an inherent advantage over red states so the effect David Hamilton describes is very real.
pat gilbert 100+
David
Do you have any correlation between the Fed taking more than they gave causing the decline in Cali's economy?
Do you have a reason why this is more important than the federal spending and borrowing .4 of every dollar to pay it not to mention printing money(QE 3) to pay it?
John current debt meaning the debt that is currently owed. This is not connected to GDP
David Hamilton 50+
Unfortunately, once again, "reality holds a strong liberal bias" Stephen Colbert.
John Smith 30+
Yes, and you mistakenly called it "current spending", I hope you were just confused, if you really thought federal spending was 16 trillion I can see why you'd think spending is off the charts.
"This (debt) is not connected to GDP"
Where did I say it was?
pat gilbert 100+
Also the bigger problem that the state can actually do something about is the Public Union pensions which are estimated to be $500 billion
pat gilbert 100+
The current debt is 16 trillion dollars the colloquial hockey stick graph yea it is something to worry about all right. not to mention the unfunded liabilities.
John Moonstroller 30+
doubled or higher in most instances.
pat gilbert 100+
Krisztián Pintér 200+
alas, this was only a proposal, never made it to an actual law. but almost got passed.
John Smith 30+
Colleen Steen 500+
This is a good law, which was passed in this state several years ago. When I first served on the permitting boards, it was NOT a law, and I observed the timing of notifications being misused. If the chair of the permitting board did not like the applicant, or had a conflict with the applicant, the process would drag on and on, and the applicant was left with no decision. If the chair was working for the applicant (owned an excavating business) the application process was pretty easy.
I mentioned conflict of interest on the governing boards in our community in another comment....this was part of the conflict, which was also apparent in other communities. The law now clearly states that for a certain process, there are so many days to respond either with approval or denial, and there has to be legitimate reasons (findings of fact in writing) for either approval/denial. If the permitting board does NOT respond in writing, it is considered approved. This put the brakes on board's misuse of the timing of approval/denial, and also clearly defined an applicants expectations regarding notification.
Fritzie Reisner 100+
A storekeeper in Philadelphia repeatedly asked his city government to clear the garbage/trash that had been accumulating for some time on the city owned lot adjacent to his store. After many weeks (or was it months?) without reply, he spent $20,000 of his own money to haul away forty tons of garbage, level the earth, and plant it with lawn, shrubs, and park benches.
The neighbors were very excited for the transformation of the eye sore into a "park."
The city, however, cited the man for his alteration of property not his own and demanded he return the lot to its former state.
John Moonstroller 30+
Colleen Steen 500+
The region and state I live in (Vermont) has very strong environmental laws, and a states attorney who is very interested in protecting our environment and is not afraid to challenge even the federal laws to keep our state more environmentally safe and healthy. The state, regional and local governing boards work very closely to ensure that our environment is protected as much as possible:>)
We are one of the first in the country to legalize civil unions, and same sex marriage. We were the first in the country to have a female legislator, female senator, judge and governor.
I'm really pretty proud of this state....can't think of any "worst laws", although I suspect there are some.
OH....the "worst" one was removed a few years ago...
"A man had the right to whip and/or shoot his wife for certain infractions".......glad THAT one is gone!!!!!Although it was not used for many years (thankfully) it was still on the books!!!
Jimmy Strobl 50+
I can see why you're proud and I'm really glad that you got rid of that nasty law.
Colleen Steen 500+
Gail . 50+
Woman are not allowed to own their own bodies.
Children are not taught important things in schools
I am forced to pray to the Christian God before serving on Jury duty, being a witness in a court case, or even when spending any money that reads "In God We Trust".
I am forced to pay taxes, and then I am forced to accept the fact that some of those taxes will be paid to private charities whose works I find horribly immoral.
The laws of my state protect criminals if they work under the protection of a "corporation" - even if the criminal is the corporation's only employee. (Let's say that you hire a licensed contractor to do some home repairs. If he takes your money and never returns, there is nothing you can do but sue him and hope that you can get some money back. The state agencies that are supposed to protect the public exist for the purpose of protecting the criminal)
I moved to this area last year. People here are so ignorant and our politicians are corrupt, lazy, christians.
Colleen Steen 500+
This is just an idea regarding corrupt leaders....
We had a lot of conflict of interest issues on the governing boards in our community when I moved here 40+ years ago. I did not have time, energy or inclination to address any of it then, because I had a family, career, etc. When I retired, however, there was time, so I applied for positions on the local governing boards, and was appointed....first one....then another......
As I served on the boards, I gradually uncovered conflicts, and made them known publically. Of course the folks who were gaining financially from their conflicts didn't appreciate me very much, but many people in the community were grateful that I was speaking about the issues they were afraid to address for so many years. It took a looooonnnng time and lots of patience, and I believe if we are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem.
When there is corruption in our local, regional, state, federal and global governing bodies, it impacts all of us, so eventually, people come on board to try to clean up the situation........just a thought my friend:>)
Gail . 50+
Colleen Steen 500+
Jimmy Strobl 50+
John Moonstroller 30+
Allan Macdougall 50+
The best laws and practices? I'm still working on that one...
Jimmy Strobl 50+
Colleen Steen 500+
Many of us agree that negativity in the media is a global problem, and we continue to see it happening....because it "sells" as you say Jimmy. I believe that what we focus on expands. It is good to be aware of what is happening in our world, and to focus on it all the time encourages more of the same.
John Moonstroller 30+
Allan Macdougall 50+
In all of this, there seems to be a lack of responsibility for our own actions, coupled to an insidious commercial agenda, encouraging a culture of 'blame'. If I injure myself, it is usually due to my own lack of attention - not necessarily someone else's incompetence.
Suing for things like minor injury introduces another 'feedback loop', for want of a better word, which further tightens up health and safety legislation to the point of destroying freedom, innovation, creativity etc from child's play and inventiveness at one end, right through to manufacturing processes at the other.
I'm with you John, on the issue of child protection. But I think too many rigid child laws can absolve responsibility of parents to protect their own children. I think that's more down to education, rather than legislation.
John Moonstroller 30+
A minor injury to you, say a broken finger of a twisted ankle might be something very big to a one armed individual or a person with only one foot. Twenty dollars to a poor man is comparable to serious wealth to those with much more in their bank account. That's why we have judges to figure these little problems out for us. If you don't have any other means to protect yourself or your property, suing is the way to go. I love it.
Judges are paid to sort through these types of things.
Prosecutors are also paid to deal with crime. If I were a rich man and being taxed at the 80 percent rate, I'd probably be a bit put off by the rest of societies petty squabbles but I'm not rich so I don't see their problem. If the judge needs a pay raise we will just have to raise taxes to deal with it. That's how the system works and keeps moving along.
As I said too simplistic, or lax child protection laws are just what those sneaky pedophiles want us to produce to make their hunt a little bit more successful. You know what I mean Allan? You can talk about economics and you can talk about politics but pedophiles.....they always talk about child protection laws. They are easy to spot so you keep your eyes open.