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Quebec and seperation from Canada.
At midnight last night the Primier of Quebec was giving a victory speech and a gunman came into the area and shot two people. She had just expressed two thoughts 1) Quebec needs to be a sovereign country; and 2) She will make laws designed to ensure the dominance of the French language.
There has been much discussion and even some action by the FLQ during the October crisis. Some providences have even discussed joining the USA if this occurs.
That leads to the conversation of how would the seperation of Quebec impact Canada, its neighbor USA, England, and the world.
Could Quebec survive as a seperate country? Advantages .. disadvantages.
scott lee
Don Wesley 50+
From hidden corner of our minds
A poem writes itself
That happened in front of me today.
I would like to share with you.
This also relates to another
Conversation about Thinking.
I long, for a quiet conversation, with a quiet mind,
In the quiet of my of my garden,
In the quiet of evening.
Quiet however is so close to Quarrelsome
Then after Q and U, there is the V,
For Values.
And in the silent consciousness of our mind,
Which reveals to us Reason;
Your reasoning and mine,
We do not see, nor hear
The hidden maps of our Violent differences.
And hidden Triggers spring them loose.
In corners of our minds, hidden minefields lay waiting.
And then, there is silence; Dead Silence.
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A Note from Don Wesley, September 6, 2012, a Thursday at 1:15 PM
The Political Party of Separation is back in Power once again.
The Poem above wrote itself from my self which resides in my mind.
The hidden maps in the neural circuits of my Brain released
The memories of past injustice.
From my parents and yours.
Our hidden memories spring to freedom
Societal rules tell us to forgive and forget,
But silent brains hold the real truth.
I remember the traitors of the October Crisis
And the Village of Prevost where they found the traitor’s arsenal.
Obey No1kinobe 50+
Don Wesley 50+
Also the immediate problem of huge movements of wealthy people moving out.
When you see no reason for "Quebec" remember you are talking about individual people who would be moving one way or the other "in or out of"
I knew while living there, that key areas would never accept separation and I mean never.
The cost of divorce takes all a families wealth and that would true for Quebecers.
I can see a million [retired] leaving for Ontario with their pension incomes. You can make such moves by crossing to the other side of the street.
The implications of owners of land, who leave but still own their land
We are not talking about the rules of playing "Monopoly" Obey.
We learned as neighbours to keep issues like these one "silent and in our heads"
You can see this polarization here in Ontario between a French Farmer and his neighbours, who are Dutch, German, Swiss, Scotch, Irish, or British. Big farms that produce our milk and crops for methanol.
This is where the guns and dynamite and fire become the talk and plans in the bedrooms.
All the best and until soon,
Don Wesley [From The Silent Generation - the 30's]
Don Wesley 50+
Just a few moments ago I had a late meal at a local franchise near Ottawa the Capital of Canada. I was talking to an elderly woman who was employed by the High Commission [British] in Montreal when the FLQ terrorists were active. Two members of the "Liberation Cell" of the FLQ kidnaped British Trade Commissioner James Cross from his home. She was there at the time. We talked and remember the horror of those times.
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[Quote] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis
“Pierre Laporte was executed. He was strangled, his body stuffed in the trunk of a car and abandoned in the bush near Saint-Hubert Airport, a few miles from Montreal. A communiqué to police advising that Pierre Laporte has been executed refers to him derisively as the "minister of unemployment and assimilation". The events of October 1970 galvanized support against violence in efforts for Quebec sovereignty and highlighted the movement towards political means of attaining greater autonomy and independence, including support for the sovereigntist Parti Québécois, which went on to form the provincial government in 1976.”
[End of Quote] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Don Wesley 50+
Voters in the French-speaking Canadian province of Quebec on Tuesday elected the nominally separatist Parti Quebecois to lead a minority provincial government.
In recent years, a new generation of separatists have joined the Quebec sovereignty movement.
Like their elders, the young separatist Quebecois are keen to defend their French language and heritage from the English-speaking Canadian majority. But they also reject Ottawa policy on issues like climate change, military spending and education.
The BBC spoke to separatists and student leaders in Montreal to find out why young bilingual activists and student leaders support the cause.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19481773
Ed Schulte 50+
inteviewed the STudent - walkout and protests ...and as do the CBC the same the slect a very narrow spectrum.
I see it is time for someone to go ask the the First Nations people in the Province of Quebec where they stand. Tweny years ago they reminded the Sepratists "we only signed treaties with the English ...therfore should a "French /Quebec " government tack over .....just remember ...you will on our land ..NOT your land"
The actual population of French / Quebec origin is declining rapidly the are in fact a minory in their own region ....just because the tax payers of Canada support a Two language policy and there are "special" treatments all over Canad to maintain it does not prevent the French Canadian decline ( in fact I suspect it promotes it ...)
Don Wesley 50+
I am not sure what your story is getting to.
The Inuit already are recognized as a Nation within Canada, as is Quebec. [fact]
The British English are declining in numbers also. [fact]
The language of English language is growing. [fact]
Many in Alberta want to separate as well. [fact]
Many in Ontario would be happy to see Quebec Go.[fact]
There many historians about with different views.
Quebec is very political with students so old they have children in daycare facilities which are paid for by the government. Huge debt!
For more facts visit the CIA web site - Library - The World Factbook - provides information on the history, people, government, economy, geography, communications, transportation, military, and transnational issues for 267 world entities. Our Reference tab includes: maps of the major world regions, as well as Flags of the World, a Physical Map of the World, a Political Map of the World, and a Standard Time Zones of the World map.
Don Wesley 50+
Sorry, I guess you are saying it is not the whole story and is therefore not the whole truth.
I would agree with you.
All the best
Don
Ken brown 30+
Don Wesley 50+
All signs in French only. If you define, growing Mafia as Empire Building; OK I agree with you.
I am smiling and laughing a bit.
Good day Ken
Don
Obey No1kinobe 50+
I speak english. English great grand parents. But im not english. I was not born in england. I am not a citizen of england. English monarchy means nothing to me. Sooner australia grows up to bea republic the better.
French ancestry does not make u french.
Don Wesley 50+
Because the answer is very interesting indeed.
My wife Denise Prevost, certainly has a French Name from France.
We can see that in the records of ships arriving.
He who arrived in Quebec as an employee of the French King,
Married a beautiful Indian Princess
Wow. That is what most French bachelor males did.
But "Shame," now enters the scene and all Quebec families dare not talk about what is shameful.
So overtime I would estimate that most all French families are part Indian.
I have a theory about this special culture, on my blog. It is a very interesting hypothesis indeed.
See my Profile for my blog and search.
All the best and until soon,
Don Wesley [From The Silent Generation - the 30's]
Don Wesley 50+
Here is a reference to "I have a theory about this special culture, on my blog."
http://innjustice.blogspot.ca/2012/06/ted-conversations-i-am-pleased-to.html
Understanding the roots of Injustice - A short Story sent to TED
All the best and until soon,
Don Wesley [From The Silent Generation - the 30's]
Ken brown 30+
Don Wesley 50+
I am laughing and smiling.
Thank you Ken so very much
All the best and until soon,
Don Wesley [From The Silent Generation - the 30's]
Don Wesley 50+
Preparing for a trip to Ottawa and the Rideau Canal - Returning via Kingston and the Seaway
Don Wesley 50+
Major General Dan Loomis himself was in charge. We talked together about this history just two years ago while in an Ottawa hospital together for over a month. He received his Officers Commission just three years before me.
Don [From The Silent Generation - 1930's]
Feyisayo Anjorin 50+
Don Wesley 50+
If the province was to separate; then province itself would separate with the Montreal area staying with Canada. Just look at the election results of yesterday.
Quebec people have more rights than most Canadians. They have more high paying jobs in Ottawa, that any other Canadian. They are masters of Federal politics and need no outside help from anyone.
Canada is a great democracy with huge social benefits, like Medicare.
Quebec supplies large electrical energy to the North American Grid.
Quebec is already a Nation within a Nation.
Ed Schulte 50+
well IF you call VERY special treatment IN ALL RESPECT right across Canada ...the yes they are.
An example for the point perhapss
If you are French Canadian and living in Vancouver and you want your child to attend a French emergin School .not in your neighbourhood ...you can sent them back and forth by Taxi ....and bill the Canadian govenment for it .
So the question could be .....what would they want in that referendum that whould make it better than taxi rides for free????
Don Wesley 50+
"Vive le Québec libre !" (French: [viv lə 'ke.bɛk 'libʁ], "Long live free Quebec!") was a controversial phrase in a speech delivered by President Charles de Gaulle of France on July 24, 1967, during an official visit to Canada under the pretext of attending Expo 67 in Montreal, Quebec. While giving an address to a large crowd from a balcony at Montreal City Hall, he uttered "Vive Montreal; Vive le Québec !" ("Long live Montreal, Long live Quebec!") and then added, almost drowned out by the crowd, "Vive le Québec libre !" ("Long live free Quebec!") with particular emphasis on the word 'libre'. The phrase, a slogan used by Quebecers who favoured Quebec sovereignty, and de Gaulle's use of it, was seen by them as lending his tacit support to the movement. The speech sparked a diplomatic incident with Canada's government, and was condemned by Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson, saying that "Canadians do not need to be liberated." Even in France, de Gaulle's speech was condemned in the French media. Over four-decades later, it is still seen as a seminal moment in English and French Canadian relations and politics.
Don Wesley 50+
Don Wesley 50+
Don Wesley 50+
Why does the world know so little about the vast land mass with vibrant well educated people who have international talent everywhere. Turn you eyes here TED.
Don [From The Silent Generation - 1930's]
Don Wesley 50+
The U.S.A. has an enormous interest in Quebec, which is never seen on the World Stage. Like a silent and unseen world size Fist and a continent wide arm reach, with many deep pockets of magic money!
Don [From The Silent Generation - 1930's]
Ken brown 30+
Don Wesley 50+
They want to win in every sport and do what is necessary to win all. That is the underlying mind-set of the “led”.
My English son’s had to leave the province to earn a living in another province.
Job’s were taken away from English and given to the French only. English owners of businesses sold out and left.
Now they do own everything. Corruption in almost every sector of the economy, with Mafia growing its size.
Don Wesley 50+
Business was my business at that time and I knew the detailed complexity of the whole Province.
Quebec on the mighty St.Lawrence, has enormous manufacturing facilities and every imaginable resource.
Energy costs are low and international shipping; air, water, rail, road. And it has brains.
People in the world have no idea just how big this area of land is.
I was ready to die to keep Quebec in Canada and I truly mean die.
As a young manufacturer in the Province there wasn’t anything that I couldn’t manufacture in Montreal. Only New York city had more. I had access to everything, both good and evil.
My every passion to live, is in this province. At present and in my 80th year I am still using the court system.
Working together with France this land could be part of a huge world power.
I have to really stay quiet on this subject and watch. The CIA from Atlanta was involved in every level and in every moneyed pocket. And all cultures have their own Mafia operating here.
I am telling myself to say no more.
Don.
Ken brown 30+