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Is it possible for an individual to be without ethnocentrism?

Ethnocentrism involves using the ideas and beliefs of one particular culture to judge other cultures.
It is so similar to pride in the sense that we loath it in other people/cultures; but we are hardly conscious of it in our own culture.
Our beliefs and worldview is as a result of years of living in our community and seeing things done in a particular way; years of familiarity with the material culture, social structure, religion, history, philosophy and ideals.
We usually percieve our culture as the logical, reasonable and normal way to live; and we often wonder "How anyone could ever live like THAT?!"
It is usually the chief enemy of marriages. The husband has grown up in a different home environment, under different circumstances, and with a different experience. He would wonder why the wife is behaving in a certain manner that is contrary to his ways; and so does the wife.

Is ethnocentrism inevitable?

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  • Sep 17 2012: People have influence over one another in ways that are mostly not very well understood much like dark matter and dark energy.Interesting you highlight it as a problem in marriage as ethnic and gender issues share common traits.

    Physical attraction and the complex decision tree choices we make socially are inherently self-biased or alternately altruistic with an undercurrent of self benefit.
  • Sep 17 2012: I work with many different cultures, and while it is evident that the people I work with always approach tasks from a familiar starting point (i.e., their own cultural perspective), what I see again and again is that we are all human first and culturally determined second. This is not to downplay the effect that cultural determination can have on our interactions with the world. It can sometimes be very significant. For example, I lived with some native Americans up near Alaska for a while and I lent one of them my jacket. He kept it! When I started to inquire about why he wasn't giving my jacket back, I discovered the idea that native ideas of private property are very different than my own. In my culture, his action might be called stealing, whereas in his culture, I was part of his community and my jacket was community property. When I discovered this, I was not angry that he kept the jacket. Rather, I was gratified that, even as an outsider, I had been included in his community. I give this example to show that cultural ideas are very powerful, yet even more powerful is our capacity for understanding each other as human beings.
  • Sep 17 2012: For myself, i struggle with it. A total rewrite of my neural pathways appears to be unavailble to me at this point, which may be directly related to the nature of my struggle...as in, insufficient to the task of it. Activities like this in the meantime may help to mitigate it. Also, discovering for oneself an "Objective" place which one may own....lol...is a very subjective pursuit...one must first understand ones own individuality...a very private affair at first?....Below chin xin mentioned "safety". Feeling safe to pursue the truth of a thing is important. My regards to the wisdom of those who provide for such. The quality of our humanity is at stake, as individuals and collectively?
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    Sep 16 2012: Oh I just remember in researching the 5 directions idea my mother believed it was easier to see another culture from that cultures point of view if you knew your own culture well and you knew your fifth direction. i.e you can't move forward unless you know what your present position is, that is the fifth direction.
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    Sep 16 2012: I don't believe ethnocentrism is inevitable. Take the example of the 5 directions, north, south, east and west the fifth is the beginning position to judge where you go to. Think of yourself and your cultural view as being this fifth direction or yourself about to got either north, south , east or west. Then place yourself in this position from somebody else's cultural point of view.

    A phrase for this philosophy was cultural anthropology and became very prominant in the 1990's out of a university in Hawaii, native american studies and maori studies in New Zealand.

    For example in NZ maori culture in the past was judged from a european or UK cultural perspective it was now being studied with the cultural values of the culture which spurned it, maori culture. Then this viewpoint is presented to other people from other cultures as an academic study.

    I'm trying to remember the first thesis my mother Mina Mckenzie was involved with these discussions. It is her analogy the 5 directions. These anthropologists were looking for a way to view and look after the treasures in there museums. I believe one of the upshots of this process was the asking of the maori preserved heads held in foreign museums to be returned.

    I hope this makes sense.
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      Sep 17 2012: hi Anna.
      your example makes me think a lot .it can't help leting me think 'is an american's english level better than a noenglish-speaking person.i don't thnk so .
      i think it is a question of tolerance.when we think at a hight of world .your people are my people .your culture is mine.then we won't have a differernce.now with the developement of the tecnology.people from differert countries can talk freely exchange our ideas.then we are getting much in commom we are towards the same.
      if this is the year a thousands year ago.we don't learn about each other .when we koncked.what will we do i think we will metch each other .because we just have fearness.
      so communication can make us learn more about each other.then we can feel much safer!
  • Sep 16 2012: Yes. Read Madison Fritzmusrice reply below.
  • Sep 16 2012: As we integrate with the virtual world our identity is confirmed by words and metaphor rather than flesh and blood. The less we look up from the displays the less we will be bound by the effects of ethnocentrism.

    When the power goes out, all bets are off and we will revert to the local nature of things. Technology makes the virtual, possible. In the past, such a notion would be virtually impossible because the technology did not exist.
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    Sep 16 2012: my answer is on .here i want to ask why ,why we have ethnocentrism.what is ethnocentrism?
    only can u answer this can we find out the problem.take china as example .i am a chinese,i live in china what i can all telated to china .so i have fellings with china here i can play with my friends i can chat with my relatives.day by day i am fallng love with china .then i have the ethnocentrism.suppose i was born in japan .and from the early time i am related to tokyo.to islands.then i think i will fall in love with japanese!
    so remembe existence is the original of things .when we are one year old we know nothing .when we are twenty we know almost everything.that is it
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    Sep 15 2012: Ethnocentrism is inevitable therefore cultures will only continually clash and mix together.

    Great thoughts here*
  • Sep 14 2012: There are three questions:
    1. Can you not judge?
    2. What do I call 'familiar'?
    3. How am I taught to react to the 'unfamiliar'?

    Can we not judge? To a certain degree. We judge others in our thoughts - even others within our culture.
    Do I know what is familiar to me? We develop this based on what is made available to us.
    What is my reaction to the 'unfamiliar'? This is developed by how it is presented when it is made available to us.

    If I eat only 10 oranges and 1 apple every day, this will be my familiar ideal. If a friend ate 9 oranges and 2 apples everyday, I can relate to him easily. If I saw someone eat 9 apples and 1 orange, I would say in my mind 'ah, interesting. I don't think I could live that way, but I see that he does.' If a teacher (who eats only oranges) said, "beware of those who eat vegetables" I would be confused. "What's a vegetable?"
    And then my friend who ate 9 oranges said, "I have someone wonderful I want you to meet! He eats Apples, but also cucumbers!" "What's a cucumber?" All three of us meet and we all talk of apples. I am given a cucumber, sliced. I try it and because of the generosity I am experiencing, I become happy with this new experience and I agree with my friend. "Yes, this is a wonderful person. This is an odd yet wonderful ... well, what is a cucumber?" "It is a vegetable." Now, I have information where I need to make a 'grown-up' decision about. A teacher who ate only oranges, not even apples said to avoid vegetable people. That teacher did not show me love for a pure orange diet. I decide the teacher is wrong. "A pure orange thinking is wrong." I thank my friends and leave. Before I arrive home, I am attacked by a man and killed. The last thing I hear is "Long Live Cucumbers."

    What we have is the first question being the most important. Can we not judge? Should we judge? We live on a planet we want to categorize efficiently, but the distance from me to you might just be an odd yet wonderful meal.
  • Sep 14 2012: A genuine individual is one who not grounded by ethnocentrism, one who has taken at least a few steps outside the cultural matrix of values in which he/she was born and raised - especially stepped outside the now global culture of diffuse but definitive imposed values by the global culture - most of these are actually junk values for a genuine individual who desires an autonomy of thought and action that defines who he/she is and it is in that autonomous and creative action that the individual transcends culture and even death.
    This is possible when one starts by undergoing a critical examination of one's cherished values - the source of these values - whether internal or socially imposed and their contrast to value systems of different kinds of people or cultures.

    "Mass culture is a constant assault upon this autonomy. This assault causes despair of the Kierkegaardian kind - and this despair is not a mood but a structure that belongs to a seized garrison - not an accidental feature but part of it, fundamental to it. It is the goal of mass culture to bury any rebellious movements and to take that part of the culture where we have begun to reflect and understand and to reverse this and make it unconscious. The parts of our culture that we can understand and reflect on are just those tiny garrisons - surrounded by the mass of the culture."..Rick Roderick ( Philosophy and Human Values)
  • Sep 13 2012: Well by definition, ethnocentric is 1. Belief in the superiority of one's own ethnic group.
    2. Overriding concern with race. I think both of these things are not good for human beings. You can have an overriding concern with race I suppose without arrogance, but not with the belief that your group is superior. I just wish we could finally overlook the color of skin and the cultures we come from; we'd see that people are pretty much the same.
  • Sep 13 2012: Yes and no. I believe if one is truly centered and in touch with the truth then they will naturally live by different principles, not being xenocentric or ethnocentric. People are ethnocentric for many reasons, ignorance, fear, gain etc. Although ethnocentrism is not inevitable, it has proven nearly impossible to avoid within the human species. Perhaps it’s just the animal in us.
    People grow up absorbing the behaviors and values of whatever culture they are in and consider anything outside to be "different", while at the same time feeling different and apart themselves... which I think is part of the beginning of ethnocentrism. (Please note that even within cultures social stratification occurs often which seems, to say this behavior begins within us early and exists even in our own families) Until humans can see themselves as being one with all things and each other, we will continue to have this problem.
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      Sep 13 2012: Yvette, I don't think ethnocentrism is a problem.Don't you think there is a way of being ethnocentric without being arrogant?
  • Sep 12 2012: I don't think it is possible to be ethnocentrism. It is not natural. If it is possible then there would not be so many wars in the history of humankind post human civilization. Which (wars) are happening even today and will happen in future. Humans are community-centric by nature meaning they feel that their community is superior over the rest, this feeling implicitly creates the boundaries. The most of the population (because nature hardwires this feeling in us for survival) feels the following way 'I am better than others' then 'My family is better than other families' then 'My community is better than other communities' then 'People from my state are better than people of other states' then 'people of my country are better than people of other countries' and this goes on to 'people of this world are better than aliens of other worlds' is it not true? Take this example in sports (it applies to all the fields where you exhibit one can exhibit excellence!), if there is a race between you and your brother you would strive to win the race, if there is a race between your family member and neighbors family member would want your family member to win, you can keep extending the boundaries to whole universe with simple mathematical induction! Forget about humans concept of altruism is NOT a natural selection.
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    Sep 11 2012: I think Humans by necessity must judge other phenomena, whether it be culture, a person or an experience, by what we already know. To not do so would make it very hard to function in everyday life. It's a cognitive bias known as the anchoring effect. For those of you who haven't heard of it, it effectively just means our perception of the present is partial to what we have already experienced. Although it is of course possible to compensate for this, I think the challenge lies in understanding how immensely subject you are to all these faults in human reasoning. And from there being able to isolate, and analyse each fault one by one. A very tedious task I think, and as such not one undertaken by an abundance of people.
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      Sep 12 2012: The obvious response to this would be to educate our children from 5 year olds up outside of the home culture?
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        Sep 12 2012: I don't think there are an awful lot of five year old children who would be able to grasp the concept of ethnocentrism. And even then do you mean that we should educate them in every culture? I suspect that being raised while being consistently told a vast amount of contradicting opinions and beliefs would not be good for a child. Also given the sheer number of different cultures out there, the parent would have a nigh impossible task set for them. Besides which, most ethnocentrism is harmless. Sure you get the extremists, but I think most people are happy to let everyone be who they want to be. For example you can disagree with religion but as long as those who are religious don't come knocking on your door to tell you about the coming apocalypse you're generally happy to let them get on with it. I'm agnostic but I have friends who are religious as well as friends from a broad range of different cultures and backgrounds. Sure I have my opinions but I also respect them as individuals, so I don't argue with them about something that doesn't effect me or our relationship. And if it ever does then we negotiate and we compromise. So while I do think ethnocentrism is inevitable, that doesn't mean you can't be civil about it. :)
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          Sep 12 2012: I was thinking for our young to grow up with a total global view,we educate them outside of nz while we do the same for another group,when they return they might not want to stay,we're very lucky in a way,we're not totally ethnocentric but a mixture of a few,kiwi/maori/islander/indian/asian, just to name the main groups,diverse and being still geographically isolated it would be great to see how it is in a hundred years or so,if we survive getting quaked and sunburnt.
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    Sep 11 2012: Let me say that it is possible to not be ethnocentric. I know people who are and I myself am a citizen of the world. I do not judge another by culture or any other criteria. We are all one and yet in some ways unique.
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      Sep 11 2012: I agree with your assessment of yourself. But how can you possibly know that someone else is not ethnocentric?
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        Sep 11 2012: Hi, I don't know about everyone in the world. I only know about some people that I associate with and there are those who are still judgemental, compartmentalize people. I did not mean everybody.
  • Sep 10 2012: in this time and space it's unavoidable in my opinion, though educated and intelligent people are at least aware of it. i think that during the many years we grow up in a certain environment, we absorb its culture, made of believes (what we believe is what motivates us to act) expected behaviors, knowledge, ways to interpret the world that surrounds us and ways to look at it. we create our own scale of values and compare everything we get in touch with to this scale. i think of myself as being a very open and not judgmental person, but when i see, let's say, a report where a taleban is kicking in the ass a woman, or a woman being lapidated (just to make two examples but it could be also something i judge bad, happening in a western country like discrimination based on race or religion) i can't help comparing these acts to my scale of values. i do agree with you that in some circumstances ethnocentrism can be a serious obstacle for marriages, the more the difference, the more the difficulty even if hubby and wife are both open minded, as the problem is extended to relatives and friends. i think though that the trend will be a gradual, slow (i think it will take a few centuries) loss of importance of ethnocentrism and it's effects, as we will become again one human nation, as it was at the beginning.
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    Sep 10 2012: It is interesting that even within national boundaries there are subcultures with very different views, values, behaviours etc.

    I guess it is difficult to assess other values, traditions, separate from your own values. Perhaps you can be open and empathic but I'm not sure we need to accept things as reasonable that clash with our core values.

    I wouldnt say our culture is particularly logical. Some aspects are positive and some negative. Same as other cultures, more or less on different dimensions.
  • Sep 10 2012: I agree to that, and I would add that also for those of us for whom it is unavoidable now, it will not necessarily be always unavoidable. Life makes sure that we all become more conscious, at first usually against our will.
    Also, I would like to add that I do not believe that making comparisons is always wrong. For example, if I apply for any job, I expect and agree to be compared to others. Whether or not I am chosen does not make me more or less human than another. Bad and good humans, ethnocentric ones or more universal ones, cruel or kind, ugly or pretty, we are all equally human, and all of our judgments of each other are partial and temporary...
    I get the feeling I am going in a circle. My conclusion now is that we are all ethnocentric, inevitably, and that being conscious of this is a key to becoming free of it.... with this thought I sign off and go back to my life.
  • Sep 9 2012: Many people don't have the ability to realize that the eyes they see the world through are not unbiased. The prevailing culture one grew up in coupled with values instilled by parents creates an identity that is deeply ingrained within each person.
    Even as an educated adult, I have to ask myself to take a step back and see my own motives, pre-conceived notions, and insecurities when looking at a situation.
    The propaganda in the news and advertising often taps into our own ethnocentric and egocentric tendencies to pull at us to lean in a direction.
    We are not a blank slate. This being said, many ideas of other have been carved deep into our minds and remain a part of us forever.
  • Sep 8 2012: Ethnocentricty is harmful when it is used to create harm. It is beneficial when used to create well-being in any ethnocentric group. Let it not be at the expense and misery of another ethnocentric group! Isn't that what has happened throughout the ages? Might not we investigate who we really are not who we think we are...based, biased and boasted by our various cultures which by its very definition must include all the i-isms and -ologies shared -in- common but not considered for any modicum of universal truth? ... Why would any of us choose to serve a ranking system/hierarchy that is the very result of these-isms and -ologies?

    Yes, *you and I* know why, don't we?

    Why can't we *grow up* to evolve as a species? And what might that look like in the real world? One of the reasons why is that we are still programmed by our roots....including what it means to be a husband and a wife.
  • Sep 8 2012: Yes, I believe it is possible that at least few people will develop into non-ethnocentrism. I was born in an international city; Shanghai, China. So I had contact with foreign cultures when I was young. Then at the tender age of fourteen, I went to work as an apprentice in a paper manufacturing company where there are Japanese staff members, even though the company president was Chinese. But I was really curious about all foreign cultures so that I also found tutors for learning Russian language from a Russian Jew. I also learned French from a French lady. I studied English all by myself because there were all kinds of contact where I worked. My curiosity is not limited to languages, but I also read a lot of world history and geography. So finally I came to the USA in 1958, and worked out a PhD in public health. I always have a "world view" free of ethnocentrism, even though I am also quite knowledgeable in classic Chinese literature. I have always been less ethnically conscious, before I had a chance to travel to many places in the Americas, Europe, Asia and Africa and Oceania. In other word I am non-ethnocentric that is not quite related to my travel. You might say that I had "traveled" the world over by studying world cultures "at home". Or it may also be true that I had the world view when I was young, and simply extended my non-ethnocentrism later in my life. Finally, let me also say that this is not new in the world history, that even in ancient Greece, there were few of the philosophers took the "world view" even when they had no knowledge on more than half of world's cultures. And I would like to raise the question that why we shouldn't seriously consider the damages made by the wars caused by the differences among different religions, nations or ethnic groups for no reason other than ethnic egotism and "built-in" hatred.
  • Sep 7 2012: IN SOCIAL EFFICIENCY
    Although some villages do have a wife in a marriage as the leader,
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    and others have the man place his foot on the bride to be, at a wedding ceremnoy (seen video only) - - -
    ethnocentrism (ethcm) will exist unless another culture is 100% accepted.
    If in as a redeeming view of more efficient or a more desirable cultural way is accepted by all but one person (there) - then ethcm exists.
    Even if that other cultural influence is judged by the first as less desirable but veered to by just one in the first culture, leaving all - culturally , then again ethcm (people-centering-their - ism) exists as well.
    --- I have been:
    Traveling every state this side of the MI river, over 40 years and a couple over:
    - An only "people" without ethcm (a" people without a country", although citizens within, here, and) herein are found as taught as and do exist in their beliefs such as "spirit will be poured out on all flesh"
    And I believe this is about further invloving looking for a day of less and less ethnocentrism comfortably 'disturbing' cultures of say a man marrying while placing his foot on the neck of the new bride, and such throughout a marriage.
  • Sep 7 2012: I have always taught that Ethnocentrism is a doctrine or policy of a specific group of people in a set location. That they share ideals, values, and culture. If that culture is introduced to another than yes, ethnocentrism is inevitable. What we as educators, and parents, need to do is teach about cultural relativism. Teaching the art of looking at other cultures through their eyes, not tainted by our own experiences, and not judging. Using what they call the sociological perspective, standing back and observing. My children have traveled and interacted with many people from around teh world and I am always amazed at the friendships they have made, even though in our discussions they may say that a certain way the kids from Romania act are wierd or different, they still understand that it is a cultural thing. (Romania is just an example, they are by no way wierd!)

    As to the point of marraige, this is what makes a good sitcom. If husband wife and familiy are all the same, they would be boring!! The trick is acceptance and understanding. Extreme ethnocentrism to the point of prejudice and racism is not inevitable in all situations.

    Just so you know, many of my students have responded to this question. They are 10th graders from Pennsylvania learning about European History and grasping the ideals of what culture is. Thanks for the opportunity to be involved in this discussion.
  • Sep 7 2012: Yes, absolutely. Not easy, but possible and indeed not uncommon.
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    Sep 7 2012: Ethnocentrism has to give way to 'Humancentrism' if the Earth is considered as a paradise for all forms of living organisms with equal right to live and prosper so long as we live. After all, birth as well as death are inevitable happenings for all living organisms be plant, animal or human wherever they are. LOVE devoid of selfishness can easily drive out ethnocentrism to give way for humancentrism. It is worth making constant and consistent efforts towards this goal. We need to change our mindset. That is all. I thank the initiator of this topic. This concept has been very much in my mind since long.
  • Sep 7 2012: The concensus seems to be that it is inevitable because it is: however, be open minded. If we know that we are products of our environment, can't we also know that there are other ways to do things, and one must know that some are better some are worse etc. Of course some people are more receptive to change than are others. I have not been outside my country for years, and I meet ther Other less often than I used to meet them. Notwithstanding , it's interesting to me to learn about other cultures. While one can fail, doesn't it make sense to try to reach out, to show one's interest, and to try to speak another language. This is the way to make new friends and learn about different ways of being.
  • Sep 7 2012: Ethnocentrism probably can't entirely be eliminated, because it is going to always take more effort to think in ways alien to one's own culture.
    However, this is an area in which it pays to be conscious of that judgement, and to consciously suspend it.
  • Sep 7 2012: Yes, We are all brought up differently with our own unique behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, etc. that make up our culture as americans. Why do we do what we do in our culture? Why are there specific "american" ways to analyze something where as other contries look at the same thing and give it completely different thoughts? Thats the kind of thought that makes us all unique and amazing. All of our different prospectives give us so many ideas that form into opportunities.
    There is exactly no reason or right to judge other cultues. They are all incomparable and radical in they're own ways. Everyone is made in an image that reflects a higher "being." Who are we to make a negative comment towards others? Either we are ignorant or have a good amount of jealousy towards others cultures, ideas and beliefs. In the end ethnocentrism leans towards the inevitable side, but its our decision to make the right choice and build our world up instead of tearing it down by pointing out flaws.
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      Sep 7 2012: We must do more than point the finger Jake. I sent TED a message asking if it is possible to start some kind of project that will list options for us to get more involved. It is well and good that we learn so much here from each other but we "Are what we do" not so much how much we learn.

      What do you think?

      John.
      • Sep 7 2012: True true, but LEARNING to observe ideas a different way and connect with others might just in fact lead us close to solving the "problem." I understand that it will be a struggle to find an answer.or main thought because we are human. Judgement is natural for us almost because it's a learned behavior that develop through experiences and our environment.