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## Georg Cantor was wrong about infinity. Greatest Mistake in History True Infinity explained

Infinity - boundless endless = ∞
Mathematics/universe - bound end = ()

Cantor said ( ∞ )
Greatest Oxymoron in existence

Cantor did find something, however it is not Actual infinity.

What he found:
The infinite possibilities within the core of our numerical system, the Number 1.

ALL types of numerical expressions, be it fractions, decimal points, percentages, whole numbers etc are different ways of expressing this one number. Hence,
What Cantor perceived to have found = ( ∞ ), an infinite restricted by time and space
What Cantor actually found = ( 1 ).

Now to what I found about the number 1 in finite. (1)
There are many ways to express mathematics, but what is the core?
x, ÷ , √ , Etc are grouped and fancy symbols explaining the only two symbols. + and  -.
Every mathematical expression can be explain by these two symbols. Remembering maths is finite, this numeric 1 is comprised of or subject to

( + | - )
This is Theory of Everything.

Except.......

Quantum Mechanics states for nothing to create something, laws must be in place for nothing to produce something.

How do you explain this. Easy....

+ ( + | - )
This is the link between Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Physics.

Even a law however is not nothing, but something. It is an action and must proceed an entity.

1 + ( + | - )

What is 1 added onto finite or 1 added onto Mathematics as the equation shows.

It is ∞.
1 + ( + | - ) = ∞
The Actual True infinity

This means
If we add 1 onto finite addition itself, we have infinite positive and respectively 1 added onto subtraction itself, infinite negative
1 + (+) = + ∞
1 + (-) = - ∞

Religiously what does this mean?

God (1) created (+) everything ((+|-)) and after judgement day (=), depending on our free will choices, we could end up in either heaven ( + ∞) or hell ( - ∞ ).

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Aug 19 2012: The universe is subject to time and space, it is not infinite. These 2 equal and opposites are the reason we can study our universe
You are correct in saying zero for a reason, before the brackets is an unseen, after the brackets is yet to be seen.

Another way of explain it is by seeing what other beliefs see.

Let me explain it this way
1= ∞ outside finite, God
+(+|-) - atheist, understand natural law exist
1=(+|-) - pantheist, the universe is God
(1= ∞ ) - Buddhism, look within yourself to find personal Nirvana
1=+=(+|-) = ∞ - Christianity, father (1) holy spirit (+) son (+|-)
Jesus said, father (1) is greater (+) that I (+|-)
Genesis 1:1 ...God (1) created (+) heavens ( ∞ ) and earth (+|-), or the finite is within infinite, not vice versa
Islam Surah 112, Say he is 1 (1), on all whom depend (+) he begets not, nor is begotten (+|-) and none is like him (∞)
and so on....
The equation explains a lot of unanswered questions
Like for example
God does not change the mathematics, he could but won't. He does miracles by setting the mathematics before the creation is created, so Moses parting the ocean already had its appointed time to do so.

It explains "natural selection" is Gods selection.
It explains how we have free will, (+|-) and that he merely only sends guidance, it your option to emit positive or negative energy, bit like ying yang

Please people put it to the test, if possible.
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Aug 19 2012: Still do not agree that the universe(s) = (+|-). It is US that is bound to time and space not the universe. And if god = (1) means that he/she is finite which makes no theological sense. It would mean that god is bound by time and space which means that god is mortal (has a beginning and an end). You can convince me that heavens are bound infinity but not the universe(s) because we can come up with a definition of where the heavens end and heavens do not describe infinitely small.

It also does not make sense that free will = your equation for the theory of everything = earth = gravitational physics. Free will does not equal gravitational physics. Taking some big leaps here but the error lies in bound infinity. Bound infinity only describes mathematics.

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Aug 20 2012: God (1) is not finite, it is outside of our finite, outside the brackets of restrictions. Outside of finite 1= ∞ so God is infinite, but it is one.
I never stated he is within finite, I however showed the different belief structures and how they have understood it to be so.
I sincerely apologize but what is your definition of universe?
The deeper we understand our universe, as present, the more we understand that "our universe" had a beginning from the initial big bang. The further we look, the more it agrees to our logical laws, even if sometimes it might take some time to understand the logic.

Also we can measure our universe, ever heard of light years? If something is measurable and calculable it falls within the vicinity of finite and mathematics.

Einsteins E=mc2 and the theory of relativity helped established the boarders of finite, it's beginning and it's end, or it's boundaries.

In regards to free will, all things in our universe is comprised of positives and negatives, ask a scientist.
When looking at the equation from a scientifical perspective we understand the (+|-) exist.
When we look at it from a morale perspective, we understand we have an option of doing whatever we feel, as long as it is within the laws of mathematics (+|-), as stated before, our option to either emit positive energy or negative energy, follow a positive path, or negative path. On the day of judgement (=) your deeds will be tallied, where you can end up in an infinte positive + ∞, heaven or infinite negative - ∞ hell, respectively. The choice of the afterlife depends on what you chose between the boarders.

Cantor was the one who stated infinity has bounds, hence I call it the greatest oxymoron in existence. I state that infinite can not be within our bounds and what Cantor was looking at was the infinite possibilities within the number 1.
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Aug 20 2012: No the universe does not have a beginning. What was it before the big bang? It did not just go poof into existence. It existed in some other form. Probably in one or two dimensions. There is no more or less of anything in the universe than any form it has ever taken in the past. There will be no more or less of anything in the universe in the future in whatever form it becomes. There are more universes and dimensions than we can perceive because we are bound by our 3+1 spaccetime..
http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v106/i10/e101101

When you put 1 in bound ends (1), you are saying that the number one is finite so god = (1) is mortal, even god = (infinity) is still mortal.
The symbol (+|-) in all your equations has different meanings:
theory of everything
gravitational physics
everything
natural law
the universe
God the son
earth
begotten person
free will
According to you, those are all equal. Then you use parenthetical bound ends and apply different meanings. For instance () means restricted by time and space but (1= infinity) means personal Nirvana or restricted to person or being. The theory doesn't work because there is no consistent interpretation of the symbolic meaning. You jump all over the place and make huge leaps in logic like god the son equals gravitational physics. I might not be a theoretical mathematician but I can follow an argument.

The theory of relativity only works in the finite 3+1 spacetime. It only describes the very big not the very small so it has an end. It falls apart at the quantum level and when you begin to explore additional dimensions. We do not live in 4+1 spacetime but we can conceptualize a tesseract. And what is light in five dimensions?

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Aug 20 2012: Mind my crudeness Linda but within your argument there is not only major flaws but what you have interpreted what I have said is disastrously wrong.
Let me intially point out I am not against the concept of multiple universes or other dimensions, however as of current this is an assumption and not based on any substantial evidence. Even if they do exist, the question arises what was before that, as stated by yourself. The other point is if we do find it, it means it can be understood, contemplated, calculated and measured, also subject to time and space, which again would mean it has a beginning and an end or finite.
As I state in the video link, even if we find another universe, we must eliminate them from the list in order to break it down to its core, to find the initial beginning.
Secondly Science and especially Physics has proven we have a beginning and our universe began with a big bang.
Quantum Mechanics says before the big bang we can potentially come from nothing, if laws are in place for nothing to produce something. Now remembering this let's go back to the equation
1 + (+|-) = ∞
The natural law, the laws that Quantum Mechanics states or the governing universal laws is the addition symbol before/outside of the finite. The intial explanation of the finite one (1) is not God. This is what Buddhism and Cantor said, not me.
The earthly bound son, or the divine being on earth is a Christian belief structure and also is related to Cantor and the Buddhism perspective, again not me. It is our numerical system, a creation, a value, an entity that's restricted by mathetical law. Arius at the time of Constantine argued in regards to not believing that the infinite can be within finite, unfortunately Athenicios won the argument and the Nicea council excepted his perspective.
I state specifically the 1 God CANNOT be within finite and inifinite cannot be in finite, it must be outside.
In other words some of our religious structures need tweaking and are slightly wrong
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Aug 20 2012: There is no initial beginning. That is a human construct. No, physics has not proven that there is a beginning and it was a big bang or that we came from nothing. That is simply the reference point where the math begins. There are several different theories about the state of the universe before the big bang. Everything from one single giant mass to some amorphous gaseous glob to the dimensional evolution of the universe.

The problem is that this is not my argument but yours. You are the one that posted that god = (1) THREE times between your posts. This is what I was pointing out as your whilly-nilly use of parentheticals invalidates the entire logic.

And yes, I think that the universe exists outside of time. It is us who reference the universe from the point of time. For instance, I think Chicago exists. I think it existed at 3:00 yesterday and will exist tomorrow at 3:00 even though I cannot prove either one of those events. I can only prove that Chicago exists in the fleeting moment of now. Did Chicago always exist? No,. It was something else before and it will be something else after. I can theorize what it was before and what it will be after but the three dimensions of space it occupies will continue to exist. Even if the matter does not.

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