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Derly Johanna Barreto

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Using technology... you're humanizing the classroom? I'm afraid...not at all

The project is really good but I suppose it should be controlled...
What do you think?

"So once again, using technology, not just flipping the classroom, you're humanizing the classroom, I'd argue, by a factor of five or 10."

**I recommend also: http://intraspec.ca/CarrGoogle2008.pdf **

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  • Jon Ho

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    Aug 21 2012: This is the new way of doing things, and perhaps a better way. Pedantic teachers unable or unwilling to accept changes will argue that this new way of teaching is not effective because student does not know how to get their learning materials. Seriously? Even a 2 year old babe knows how to get onto Youtube and watch their favourite super simple videos. IF a 2 year old can learn new technology, why can't a 30 year old teacher? If you as a teacher refusing to LEARN to use new technology, what rights have you to TEACH the new generation? Are you trying to spread a misguided and Luddite way of thinking?

    As to the problem of students copying and pasting their project or homeworks, the problem is easy to solve. Simple tell them that you have a homework or projects database, and if you find out that if they copied their homework or projects from the internet per se, they will either fail the course or hand in TWICE as many homeworks or projects. If you find out that they handed in another copied source, their workload will be DOUBLED again and again, until they give up and failed the course, or actually do it properly.
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    Aug 20 2012: Khan doesn't just say that technology is humanizing the classroom and expect us to accept that statement. It is explained how the technology facilitates more time in the classroom for meaningful dialogue between teachers and students. Moreover these techniques are not theoretical, blended learning has already been rolled out in certain schools and the results have been staggering.

    The discussion of how technology can be used in education is not a discussion about smart-phones being distracting, plagiarism being bad, nor web-browsing affecting how we think. All of those issues will remain regardless of whether or not the proposed technological developments in education go forward.

    Just to re-iterate what Khan actually said, it was that teachers can get students to watch lectures at home in video format, in an environment where they can pause and rewind when confused. Then teachers don't have to give one-size fits all lectures in class, instead they have more time to discuss questions, go through exercises and organise project work. More time to actually interact with students instead of just lecturing.
  • Aug 24 2012: In reading these comments I hear my fellow teachers who speak about themselves as opposed to the students that they teach. We are worried about how technology gets in the way and how it separates us from other human beings. We talk about how it becomes a problem in my classroom because, "They won't listen to ME!". What makes you think that they were listening in the first place? Why is it that we decide, "If I can isolate my students from the world and make them listen, they are learning. How long do you think that they will retain that knowledge? "Long enough for the test, I hope", is what I'm sure some are saying. True understanding of a concept comes from relation to the information, analyzing it, synthesizing it, and being able to apply it. How can a student relate to what you are teaching them if you are forcing them to learn the way YOU learned. Just because we "have always done it that way", doesn't mean it is the best way. As I have heard a speaker say, why are we teaching the classes of 2013-2026 for the job market of 1980? I'm sure some of you reading this will state that "I'm not convinced". To be completely honest, you are not the one that needs to be convinced. Your time is over. Our students are convinced. Our world is convinced. Our top corporations are convinced. Quit trying to hold the world back to make you comfortable, because all you are doing is a disservice to your students. In closing, I would like to know how many people wrote a hand-written letter in the last five years? How about a college essay? How about the comment that you made on this site? Thank you for considering my thoughts.
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    Aug 24 2012: Access to information is not education.

    In my experience, digital technology in classrooms is heinously expensive and fraught with bugs.

    I'm not convinced that digital technology has any great strength beyond 'everybody's doing it'.
  • Aug 20 2012: By technology I assume they mean computers. There is so much more than that to technology. I believe this will be the usual lots of action little thought, but the idea of programmed learning is old.
  • Aug 19 2012: Hello Derly

    The technology was thought to be an effective way of teaching and learning process.
    Indeed it can be in some ways (such as for long distance learning and teaching)

    but in classroom, it can be destructive. some students are smarter in hi tech than their students.
    and this sometimes makes the student feel superior and not accept learning from the teacher.
    but when it comes to a one to one conversation or sharing an opinion in the classroom (say about Modern Slavery)
    there are only very few who can participate.
    yet I am not saying about their reading speed (which in some cases doesn't reach 100 words per minutes)

    if you try to check the nowadays' essays and the essays written before Google you will notice a great deal of differences. my students go for copy/past option - which is fast and easy. and when you read it you know it is not
    their on words. they are never going to be able to write such a complex sentences when you hear them talking.

    so I don't use hi tech / videos / audios / etc - but mere pen and paper and one to one talk
    to make sure they can keep and maintain eye contact when they are not in front of PC.

    Saludos
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      Aug 19 2012: Good point. I recommend you to read: http://intraspec.ca/CarrGoogle2008.pdf
      • Aug 19 2012: Hello Derly

        Thanks, I have copied it, will read it the sooner I can

        cheers
    • Aug 19 2012: About the essays: The problem of copy and paste can be easily avoided through banning printed text work from homework and during tests. Means, simply force your students to write by hand, they will copy still (like any smart student does), but will be forced to spend time with their copy and probably get interested in it.

      Outside situations like that i see no negative side, because if you read a text from a book or a tablet computer does not change much-still the same text. And i do not think the inability to have a conversation has started with google or the internet, that phenomenon existed at all times. At least i doubt that before google any conversation was of high quality.
      • Aug 19 2012: Hello Lars

        Thanks for giving your time to comment here.

        Surely I know what's going on with they essays. this is not the only issue at school.
        in early 90s not a school student has a cell phone in their pockets in the classroom. - how was the quality of attention?
        10 years later almost every student had a cell phone. - how was the quality of attention?
        now , since 2010 every student has a smartphone in their pocket and every one is connected to certain social network - is there any attention to chat teacher is talking about? - I would dare to say:
        Less or none at all.

        book vs tablet - say I am a teacher in my 50s (which I am not still) and I am having hard time to use computer and here I get the iPad and I have no idea how to use it.
        (first they would teach me how to use, if I don't learn they won't give it to me)
        That would make me ridiculous in front of the class. in this case kids will think I know nothing so I can teach anything.

        there are pros and cons using hi tech at school - I agree it should keep up with time as students depend it.
        I interviewed a few teachers, young and elder ones.
        the young teachers weren't use to write on blackboard (and their writings was unreadable in most cases) but they were good at using smartboards - it does everything for them.

        the elder teachers had no problem with writing on blackboard (ad it was readable in most cases) but they couldn't get into smartboard.

        nowadays, we can't expect to have Einsteins, Sheakspeares, Nashes, Tolstoys etc, we can have
        IT programmers / app writers /and whatever there is / etc

        PS: a week ago I met a new teacher, his first years to teach, he was preparing some exercises for his first class, Guess what he was doing?! Copying from Google, it was easy than use his brain to write 10 sentences
        • Aug 19 2012: But is that smartphone problem not a problem of authority, rather than of technology? When i was in school the mobile phones came up, but we were not allowed to use them during the lessons, same with music players. Why are your students allowed to use them during lesson? Simply forbid that, worked before smartphones, will work after.

          And if a teacher will just copy and paste, i would pay him that way-the same, like the students get, nothing. On the other hand, i do not remember any teacher who did something else than copy and paste-just that they took copies from books, or just worked one time and then copied their work every new class and year.

          I think we need to think about what schools (not universities, that is diffrent) are good for and why we have them-at first, we have them to teach reading and writing. Everything that comes after was done because of the fact that the information could not be carried around that easily like today. Today you do not necessarily need to have history lessons, it is enough that you can read and acess the internet.

          I guess schools are a little demasked nowadays, as the time has come were it is obvious that the value we have wrongly put in them is not that big. Most of all that what we "learn" throughout school years vanishes right after we leave school-that was like that at all times. But today we can acess all of this information without schools, if we want and need to.

          So maybe we should say bye to school system of the past, and welcome a more present orientated system? How that looks i do not know, but the old system will vanish, that is for sure. It already does, as you see in your young teacher-he will not make a lifetime as a teacher this way, once his students found out he copies from google, they will not notice him being in the room or not anymore.
      • Aug 19 2012: "Why are your students allowed to use them during lesson? Simply forbid that, worked before smartphones, will work after." :-) I wonder where you from?

        do you know that today, in many European countries teachers has no rights to forbid anything ?
        if you dare to say X that you students didn't like that may cost your career.

        why many young people wants to be teachers and not miners / builders / drivers / cleaners?
        It is clean job, got all weekends, long holidays, guaranteed income - just shut up and spend your time.
        and it is easy to blame students that they are not paying attention at school.
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        Aug 20 2012: Well, I have to clarify that the idea of recommending the previous essay is just to review some facts that may help to understand what happens with technology. Of course, everyone of us can take whatever we find useful to take a position about this. So I don't want to present Google (and other things) like the main issue. I apologize if that was not the issue of your answer but I wanted to clarify that.
        Thanks for your comments.
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    Aug 18 2012: Derly, I agree with you that technology has many benefits but does not humanize the classroom. I think this argument is only a way of counter-acting the obvious argument that technology makes education less human by putting a screen between the person speaking and the person listening.

    Having students watch a video at home while discussing in school is surely better than having them watch a video at school and not discussing at school, but the latter is nothing like the way classtime is handled anywhere, to my knowledge. It is very far from best practice, but more importantly, very far from common practice.

    But I don't see how it follows from this that watching videos at home should be curtailed.

    Modern learning theory would seriously challenge, however, all this emphasis on lecture. Best practices suggest an inquiry classroom without much talking at students as part of the mix, EITHER by a lecturer in the classroom OR by a video at home.